Golden Mosque Bombing Leads to More Sectarian Violence

Sunni terrorists blew up the minarettes of the famous Golden Mosque in Samarra. Iraqi police arrested four suspects. Meanwhile, Shiites decided to take revenge and attacked and destroyed a couple of Sunni mosques. This is – of course – another reason why Iraq will not be a stable democracy for quite some time to come: the eye for an eye mentality is alive and well. In good working Democracies, citizens have to accept the Rule of Law. When something happens, even when something terrible happens, they have to refrain from taking revenge themselves: they have to let the government do its job.

At this moment, it is far too easy to create a crisis in Iraq: destroy something of the Shiites and the Shiites will want to take revenge. Destroy something of the Sunnis and they will – in their turn – take revenge. After that, the other group believes that it is allowed to take revenger for the revenge of the first group, etc.

In other bad news: the Washington Post reports that “overall levels of violence in the [Iraq] have not decreased, as attacks have shifted away from Baghdad and Anbar, where American forces are concentrated, only to rise in most other provinces, according to a Pentagon report released yesterday.”

The report also concludes that “Iraq’s government, for its part, has proven ‘uneven’ in delivering on its commitments under the strategy,” and that “Iraqi leaders have made ‘little progress’ on the overarching political goals that the stepped-up security operations are intended to help advance.” Instead of becoming more united, “some analysts see a growing fragmentation of Iraq.” 36% of Iraqis already say they believe the country “would be better off if the country were divided into three or more separate countries.”

Also noteworthy is that “in Baghdad, a majority of residents report that militias act in the best interests of the Iraqi people.” This – logically – means that the residents Baghdad will not work against the militias. They look at those militias for security, the militias expect support in return.

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11 Responses to Golden Mosque Bombing Leads to More Sectarian Violence

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  2. Darrell Prows says:

    Al Sistani better step very gingerly because it looks like Al Sadr has him in his sights. As far as individuals, these may be the only two men in Iraq that really bear watching. I think that they are both playing for all of the marbles, and that one of them is likely to come out on top. The question is whether young, energetic, and charismatic can be enough to over come wise, venerated, and supremely connected. It looks to me like both of them studied Khomeni very carefully.

  3. elmercreek says:

    Call me pesimistic but I think this last mosque bombing has the CIA’s finger prints all over it. Who profits by all the violence? Oh gee, we’ll just have to stay in Iraq longer because of the violence and we’ll have to keep some bases here forever!

  4. Michaelvdg says:

    Elmer: that is quite a ridiculous comment. You’re not pessimistic, you’re accusing your government of blowing up the mosque, which will result in the death of many people, just so US forces ‘can’ stay longer in Iraq.

    That’s quite an offensive thing to say.

  5. Michael

    Sadly our CIA has been involved with some pretty ugly stuff over the years. Of course a lot of it can never quite be proved and most of it is usually denied.

    Look at the whole renditions issue for example. We have foriegn governments saying we are doing this and the US denies it.

  6. Darrell Prows says:

    The CIA has no ability to do this unless they have acted in league with Al Sadr. That said, one does wonder at how subdued the reaction of Al Sadr has been initially.

  7. Ginny Cotts says:

    Unfortunately Michael, there is a really ugly element of the CIA that does have a history in too many covert and overt US overthrows of foreign governments. Although I suspect the problems in Iraq have plenty of fuel without (ex?)CIA operatives adding to it, Vietnam Vets like Elmercreek have their reasons to be pessimistic.

    Meanwhile, America is suffering the blowback (a CIA term) of many of those actions in the Middle East, Central and South America. The payback is where it should be: economic.

    The proverb of ‘an eye for an eye, …’ brings back Gandhi’s wise observation:

    “…makes the whole world blind and toothless.”

  8. elmercreek says:


    You do have a naïve grasp of what’s happening in Iraq. As to your belief that the CIA wouldn’t do something like this I suggest you google the Phoenix program. What you’ll find is a CIA program in Viet Nam that assassinated over 40,000 Vietnamese so called “subversives’. Then I suggest you google the Salvadoran option. There you’ll discover the workings of John Negroponte creating the death squads there. And lo and behold Johns name will pop up in that search with death squads in Iraq when he was U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and all this sectarian killing started.

    If you recall the first bombing of the Golden Mosque, both the Shia and the Sunni believed that US covert operations were responsible although no MSM reported that.

    I do believe that the CIA is capable of orchestrating these bombings. The US has played both sides of the sectarian violence since it’s inception. Divide and conquer, but unfortunately our troops get caught in the middle. Whether you agree or disagree, sectarian violence is seen as a real plus by some factions of this administration. With a war built on lies, I have no problem finding them capable of such an act and the war has been about permanent bases in Iraq from day one.

    And Michael, since when have we been worried about causing deaths in Iraq. Maybe you should research the air war in Iraq and see if you can get information on how many bombs we drop on Iraq in a day and the civilian casualties inflicted there. The air war has been increased in the past year or so. Bombing from the air doesn’t get American soldiers killed and it sometimes gets the bad guys but mostly it’s the poor civilians who get killed. Nobody wants to talk about that or give out the statistics.

    And Darrell, lately there has been signs that Sadr is feeling out improving relationships with some of the Sunni insurgent groups. I’m sure there are forces that don’t want that to happen.

    Oh well, just call me pessimistic!

  9. Ginny Cotts says:


    Isn’t the air bombing in Iraq to decrease American casualties yet another similarity to (the last year + of)Vietnam?

    Not that we have had the fragging of officers in Iraq like we did in Nam. The volunteer military has probably helped that.

    Any ideas why the military brass is willing to allow the covert idiots to keep American soldiers where IEDs, and the newer bombs that are even more destructive, can tear off their limbs, etc? They can suspect but they can’t prove, they can have some proof but they dare not open their mouths?

    I’ve been upset enough at how pessimistic the past few years have made me. Just last month it got much worse. My invariably peace keeping, positive, serene sister admitted to having a view of the future of the world that is basically as dim as mine.

    I think I need to go listen to America in Denial. It just has an odd way of cheering me up. 😉

  10. Elmercreek

    Speaking of civilian casualties in Iraq, I ran across this earlier tonight and met to post about it, but got caught up talking with my daughter and one of her friends:

    Latest from McClatchy’s Iraqi Staffers: The ‘City of Cemeteries’

    For several weeks, E&P has been featuring frank and often disturbing blog entries by McClatchy’s Iraqi correspondents and staffers from their site, Inside Iraq. The writers’ full names are not listed due to security concerns.

    I Googled for the McCaltchy site mentioned and found it here:

    I’m going to add it to our blogroll.

    There’s a lot of stuff going on that I feel bad that I’m missing blogging about, but my daughter is graduating from high school and we have a lot going on for the next couple of weeks.

  11. elmercreek says:


    I’m not quite sure what you mean by the military brass allowing the covert idiots to keep American soldiers where IED’s can tear off their limbs. It’s a complicated war with many agendas and covert operations have been a part of every war. So has mines, booby traps and IED’s. The process and use just keeps evolving with the situations.

    Interesting observation that the increased air war in Iraq being similar to the last years of Viet Nam. I read an disturbing article weeks ago about how the increased (unreported) air war in Afghanistan is actually backfiring on us. Villagers are so tired of the increased civilian casualties that they are turning against U.S. and Nato forces and siding with the Taliban. Not exactly winning the hearts and mines.

    Pamela, Fallujah is another sad story. It’s been leveled twice now the last century. First by the British and more recently by us. Fallujah was basically a free fire zone which means you shoot anything that moves. Real rough on the civilian population. You give everybody a warning to get out and if you don’t you’re treated as an enemy. To see the fallacy of this policy you only have to look at New Orleans and Katrina. Who didn’t get out of New Orleans? The sick, the poor, the old, people who disbelieved the warnings and people who stayed around to protect their homes. This same group in Fallujah met a deadly fate. As your article showed, the city is still pretty much in a lock down mode.