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		<title>By: Darrell Prows</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrell Prows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shelly: I more than agree with you about the Kucinich approach but you notice that Obama doesn&#039;t go along with us either?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shelly: I more than agree with you about the Kucinich approach but you notice that Obama doesn&#8217;t go along with us either?</p>
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		<title>By: shelly caldeira</title>
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		<dc:creator>shelly caldeira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meant to say that.... if she wins the general ...  Ann Coulter says...</description>
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		<title>By: shelly caldeira</title>
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		<dc:creator>shelly caldeira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Pam,
  Yeah I know about the Billary thing, after I posted it I felt bad...should have left that out, it was uncalled for.  That term came from the Republicans...picked up that silly name from conservative blogs about a year ago.  Should never have used it.

   I am a small business owner myself and so is my husband.  He plays music in Waikiki, I do fitness and Massage therapy.  It costs us just about 800.00 bucks a month to get coverage, we cannot afford it.  His mother, (we are in our mid-late 40&#039;s) pays for his and we pay for mine...it just sux.

  I have been looking at the plans myself for some time and bottom line is none of them are true universal plans including Kerrys...  Too bad Kucinich was portraid to be a dweeb, he knows whats going on.   Single Payer Universal is the BEST option, but at this juncture not an option.   I just think it&#039;s unfair to &quot;mandate&quot; everyone to buy it...it&#039;s not working in Mass. and it more than likely won&#039;t work for the entire country.  Sure the people who can afford their current insurance can keep what they got, a nice choice for them.

  I have always been a fan of Hillary Clinton especially back in the 90&#039;s when they took so much crap.  I was planning on voting for her a few months back until I started looking deeper...and paying close, I mean close attention.   

 Nothing personal, and as I said, I wish I could take the Billary remark back...here&#039;s my point about her...sure she has done a lot of good things in her life, but she is quite &quot;hawkish&quot; for the lack of a better term...I think she will move more moderate or to the right if she becomes president, and will suprise  her supporters with closed door policy making activities.  It&#039;s pretty common knowledge  that the Clintons have always been Big Corporate New World order politicians with some democratic leanings...and thats o.k....It got them to where they are now.   

If she becomes the candidate, the GOP will be all over her and Bill once again...this is a Fact.  If you ever visit conservative sites (I do, just to see whats up) you will see that they are praying she beats Obama...just for their kicks.  Dirt and mud flying everywhere.  And if she loses the general,  Ann Coulter says...thats cool, because she is more &quot;right&quot; than McCain.  

  And if she wins....4  more years of right-wing Limbaugh, Hannity, and O&#039;reilly types filling up our airways with more witch hunt commentary, trying to replace her with a real &quot;hard righter&quot; with zero democratic values after her 1st four years. 
  
  It sux what happened to them 12 years ago but excuse me, this is our country and world!!!  Democrats need to get over the Clintons and move on!   Sorry for my bluntness but I don&#039;t know any other way to say it.    Shelly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Pam,<br />
  Yeah I know about the Billary thing, after I posted it I felt bad&#8230;should have left that out, it was uncalled for.  That term came from the Republicans&#8230;picked up that silly name from conservative blogs about a year ago.  Should never have used it.</p>
<p>   I am a small business owner myself and so is my husband.  He plays music in Waikiki, I do fitness and Massage therapy.  It costs us just about 800.00 bucks a month to get coverage, we cannot afford it.  His mother, (we are in our mid-late 40&#8242;s) pays for his and we pay for mine&#8230;it just sux.</p>
<p>  I have been looking at the plans myself for some time and bottom line is none of them are true universal plans including Kerrys&#8230;  Too bad Kucinich was portraid to be a dweeb, he knows whats going on.   Single Payer Universal is the BEST option, but at this juncture not an option.   I just think it&#8217;s unfair to &#8220;mandate&#8221; everyone to buy it&#8230;it&#8217;s not working in Mass. and it more than likely won&#8217;t work for the entire country.  Sure the people who can afford their current insurance can keep what they got, a nice choice for them.</p>
<p>  I have always been a fan of Hillary Clinton especially back in the 90&#8242;s when they took so much crap.  I was planning on voting for her a few months back until I started looking deeper&#8230;and paying close, I mean close attention.   </p>
<p> Nothing personal, and as I said, I wish I could take the Billary remark back&#8230;here&#8217;s my point about her&#8230;sure she has done a lot of good things in her life, but she is quite &#8220;hawkish&#8221; for the lack of a better term&#8230;I think she will move more moderate or to the right if she becomes president, and will suprise  her supporters with closed door policy making activities.  It&#8217;s pretty common knowledge  that the Clintons have always been Big Corporate New World order politicians with some democratic leanings&#8230;and thats o.k&#8230;.It got them to where they are now.   </p>
<p>If she becomes the candidate, the GOP will be all over her and Bill once again&#8230;this is a Fact.  If you ever visit conservative sites (I do, just to see whats up) you will see that they are praying she beats Obama&#8230;just for their kicks.  Dirt and mud flying everywhere.  And if she loses the general,  Ann Coulter says&#8230;thats cool, because she is more &#8220;right&#8221; than McCain.  </p>
<p>  And if she wins&#8230;.4  more years of right-wing Limbaugh, Hannity, and O&#8217;reilly types filling up our airways with more witch hunt commentary, trying to replace her with a real &#8220;hard righter&#8221; with zero democratic values after her 1st four years. </p>
<p>  It sux what happened to them 12 years ago but excuse me, this is our country and world!!!  Democrats need to get over the Clintons and move on!   Sorry for my bluntness but I don&#8217;t know any other way to say it.    Shelly</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shelly

We have no name calling policy here and that includes uning &quot;Billary&quot; to describe Hillary Clinton. It doesn&#039;t wash with me. It&#039;s offensive and rude. Hillary Clinton is running this race and Obama supporters do a dis-service to the party using that name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shelly</p>
<p>We have no name calling policy here and that includes uning &#8220;Billary&#8221; to describe Hillary Clinton. It doesn&#8217;t wash with me. It&#8217;s offensive and rude. Hillary Clinton is running this race and Obama supporters do a dis-service to the party using that name.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shelly

Hillary CLinton&#039;s plan is very similar to the Universal Healthcare plan that John Kerry offered in &#039;06. I happen to be a small business owner and an only parent and I have been without healthcare insurance for nearly 6 years. In my opinion Clinton&#039;s plan is the best, but thank you for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shelly</p>
<p>Hillary CLinton&#8217;s plan is very similar to the Universal Healthcare plan that John Kerry offered in &#8217;06. I happen to be a small business owner and an only parent and I have been without healthcare insurance for nearly 6 years. In my opinion Clinton&#8217;s plan is the best, but thank you for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: shelly caldeira</title>
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		<dc:creator>shelly caldeira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pam,
  The health plan that Clinton wants is very similar to the one Romney passed in Mass. a couple of years ago.  Here in Hawaii there has been a grassroots movement for true Universal Health -the single payer version.   Using the term &quot;Universal&quot; for the Mass. plan and Clintons plan is kind of a joke.

Check out what is happening in Mass.  That plan basically just helps insurance co. get more money by mandating everyone to pay.  The people who cannot pay will be fined two hundred and something dollars this year. Next year they will be fined over 1,000. dollars.  It&#039;s not really a true universal plan.  Both Obama&#039;s and Clintons plans are still for profit but at least Obama&#039;s wont penalize people who still can&#039;t afford to buy even after they are subsidized.
  Yes, I think American should move towards a universal plan, but definetly not the Clinton version of it....It would just solidify the health insurance industry&#039;s  strangle hold on us, and create penalty fees for us to have to pay!  Clinton has spent time on this issue yet her conclusion is wrong, wrong for the poor and wrong for the near poor Americans...and as we all are becoming more and more aware, there are millions....MILLIONS of poor and almost poor americans.  Please check things out more into depth, and have your friends do the same...this  election means sooooo much for our country and world for that matter.  Don&#039;t let corporate media and Clintons verbage and clear speaking ability sway you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pam,<br />
  The health plan that Clinton wants is very similar to the one Romney passed in Mass. a couple of years ago.  Here in Hawaii there has been a grassroots movement for true Universal Health -the single payer version.   Using the term &#8220;Universal&#8221; for the Mass. plan and Clintons plan is kind of a joke.</p>
<p>Check out what is happening in Mass.  That plan basically just helps insurance co. get more money by mandating everyone to pay.  The people who cannot pay will be fined two hundred and something dollars this year. Next year they will be fined over 1,000. dollars.  It&#8217;s not really a true universal plan.  Both Obama&#8217;s and Clintons plans are still for profit but at least Obama&#8217;s wont penalize people who still can&#8217;t afford to buy even after they are subsidized.<br />
  Yes, I think American should move towards a universal plan, but definetly not the Clinton version of it&#8230;.It would just solidify the health insurance industry&#8217;s  strangle hold on us, and create penalty fees for us to have to pay!  Clinton has spent time on this issue yet her conclusion is wrong, wrong for the poor and wrong for the near poor Americans&#8230;and as we all are becoming more and more aware, there are millions&#8230;.MILLIONS of poor and almost poor americans.  Please check things out more into depth, and have your friends do the same&#8230;this  election means sooooo much for our country and world for that matter.  Don&#8217;t let corporate media and Clintons verbage and clear speaking ability sway you!</p>
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		<title>By: shelly caldeira</title>
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		<dc:creator>shelly caldeira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BEWARE !!!!

IF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT GIVEN DRIVER&#039;S LICENCES THEY WILL BE FORCED TO BREAK THE LAW!

SINCE IT IS A CRIME TO BREAK THE LAW, IF CAUGHT YOU ARE EXEMPT FROM A PATH TO CITIZENSHIP!

THIS WILL FOREVER BAN YOU FROM BEING A U.S. CITIZEN! THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO DEPORT YOU!

The Clintons are big-time corporate dems. Hillary earned about 100,000k serving as a non functional on the board of wall mart...she says she was there to promote wage increases and womens rights. Do a fact check on that! She did nothing!

Why does&#039;nt anyone call on her on the following when she touts about &quot;the fabulous Clinton years&quot; The Clinton&#039;s have been huge supporters of the Bush&#039;s and the Neocon&#039;s view of the NEW WORLD ORDER. Clinton passed NAFTA. Nafta has proven to be probably the single most contributing factor of job losses in America, let alone how it has almost wiped out Mexican farmers! Ask yourself why Rupert Murdock sponsored a fund raising event for Hillary.

What about Bill&#039;s brokering of a uranium deal with the president of Kazahkstan and his Canadian friend Frank Guistra in 2005? He received $131,000,000 for it and is now denying any wrong-doing after trying to keep it a secret for these last two years. Ask yourself why big corps love the Billary!!! 

More of the same from the Clintons and we&#039;re doomed for more of the same if they get into the White house again. 

Why do so many people take big media commentary for fact...Please people, take the time to learn facts! The more you dig up, the more you will realize that Obama is the right choice for Americans and the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BEWARE !!!!</p>
<p>IF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT GIVEN DRIVER&#8217;S LICENCES THEY WILL BE FORCED TO BREAK THE LAW!</p>
<p>SINCE IT IS A CRIME TO BREAK THE LAW, IF CAUGHT YOU ARE EXEMPT FROM A PATH TO CITIZENSHIP!</p>
<p>THIS WILL FOREVER BAN YOU FROM BEING A U.S. CITIZEN! THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO DEPORT YOU!</p>
<p>The Clintons are big-time corporate dems. Hillary earned about 100,000k serving as a non functional on the board of wall mart&#8230;she says she was there to promote wage increases and womens rights. Do a fact check on that! She did nothing!</p>
<p>Why does&#8217;nt anyone call on her on the following when she touts about &#8220;the fabulous Clinton years&#8221; The Clinton&#8217;s have been huge supporters of the Bush&#8217;s and the Neocon&#8217;s view of the NEW WORLD ORDER. Clinton passed NAFTA. Nafta has proven to be probably the single most contributing factor of job losses in America, let alone how it has almost wiped out Mexican farmers! Ask yourself why Rupert Murdock sponsored a fund raising event for Hillary.</p>
<p>What about Bill&#8217;s brokering of a uranium deal with the president of Kazahkstan and his Canadian friend Frank Guistra in 2005? He received $131,000,000 for it and is now denying any wrong-doing after trying to keep it a secret for these last two years. Ask yourself why big corps love the Billary!!! </p>
<p>More of the same from the Clintons and we&#8217;re doomed for more of the same if they get into the White house again. </p>
<p>Why do so many people take big media commentary for fact&#8230;Please people, take the time to learn facts! The more you dig up, the more you will realize that Obama is the right choice for Americans and the world.</p>
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		<title>By: malcolm</title>
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		<dc:creator>malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll give him credit for using a historical democratic talking point against hillary last night:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtYhy_qqykM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll give him credit for using a historical democratic talking point against hillary last night:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtYhy_qqykM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtYhy_qqykM</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bacalove

Young people in college have to have health insurance. The large universities all require it. Either you join their health plans or you have your own via your parents. 

And FYI, here in CA, where my daughter attends a UC -- the UC health insurance plan is phenomenal and very low cost - under $900 a year for a PPO with a minimal deductable, a $10 co-pay for Dr visits, a refund to the students who utilize their preventative care program, low cost prescriptions and a lot more. 

Imagine, just imagine if the whole country had the option to be part of a system like that. 

You are misleading in saying Hillary Clinton does not offer CHOICE. Her plan offers the most choices for plans and allows people who are covered to keep their current coverage if they choose. 

And quite frankly, maybe you don&#039;t want to have car insurance, but you are screwed if you total your car and you don&#039;t have it. Think about that. Likewise you are screwed if you don&#039;t have health insurance and you get in an accident. 

I&#039;ve gone for nearly 6 years with out healthcare. I&#039;m self employed and can not afford it as the industry is structured now. I welcome a system that requires all to have health insurance because I understand the bottom line is the more that have the lower the rates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bacalove</p>
<p>Young people in college have to have health insurance. The large universities all require it. Either you join their health plans or you have your own via your parents. </p>
<p>And FYI, here in CA, where my daughter attends a UC &#8212; the UC health insurance plan is phenomenal and very low cost &#8211; under $900 a year for a PPO with a minimal deductable, a $10 co-pay for Dr visits, a refund to the students who utilize their preventative care program, low cost prescriptions and a lot more. </p>
<p>Imagine, just imagine if the whole country had the option to be part of a system like that. </p>
<p>You are misleading in saying Hillary Clinton does not offer CHOICE. Her plan offers the most choices for plans and allows people who are covered to keep their current coverage if they choose. </p>
<p>And quite frankly, maybe you don&#8217;t want to have car insurance, but you are screwed if you total your car and you don&#8217;t have it. Think about that. Likewise you are screwed if you don&#8217;t have health insurance and you get in an accident. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gone for nearly 6 years with out healthcare. I&#8217;m self employed and can not afford it as the industry is structured now. I welcome a system that requires all to have health insurance because I understand the bottom line is the more that have the lower the rates.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell Prows</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrell Prows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bacalove: I&#039;d be willing to bet that &quot;Oh, I&#039;m sick, I better go buy some health insurance and get treated&quot; is not going to be one of the choices.

Mainly, though, the most realistic numbers I&#039;ve been able to find say that we get a better result than we have now at less overall expense only by cutting the insurers out entirely and going single payer. Sadly no one is willing to confront the reaction that would result from vested interests over making that a stated policy goal. I would put Obama&#039;s plan to the right of Clinton&#039;s, when we actually need to be focused well to the left of either of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bacalove: I&#8217;d be willing to bet that &#8220;Oh, I&#8217;m sick, I better go buy some health insurance and get treated&#8221; is not going to be one of the choices.</p>
<p>Mainly, though, the most realistic numbers I&#8217;ve been able to find say that we get a better result than we have now at less overall expense only by cutting the insurers out entirely and going single payer. Sadly no one is willing to confront the reaction that would result from vested interests over making that a stated policy goal. I would put Obama&#8217;s plan to the right of Clinton&#8217;s, when we actually need to be focused well to the left of either of them.</p>
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