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		<title>By: John McCain really could win : BigMouthFrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>John McCain really could win : BigMouthFrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 02:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Democratic Daily: Democrats will once again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory [...]</description>
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		<title>By: john stone</title>
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		<dc:creator>john stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have to support whover gets nomination. I know that I will and strongly!. I wanted John Kerry, but when he decided not to run , I had to pick someone else and a lot of people I know wanted Kerry but went for Clinton or Obama, but we all agreed we  will support the eventual nominee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have to support whover gets nomination. I know that I will and strongly!. I wanted John Kerry, but when he decided not to run , I had to pick someone else and a lot of people I know wanted Kerry but went for Clinton or Obama, but we all agreed we  will support the eventual nominee!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Luce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Luce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, as someone who has worked in TV production, as someone who has operated teleprompters, let me disavow you all of this notion he relies on them. He doesn&#039;t.  

Why would he? Like Hillary, they basically give the same speech 6 times a day. I think they have it down by now.

Hillary has come a long way in her delivery, you guys can relax, no need to keep trying to diminish Barack&#039;s speeches. 

MSNBC is reporting Hillary is about to drop another 20 million of her own money into the campaign. Who would ever have imagined working in the public sector could be so lucrative! That&#039;s an amazing figure. And no, she didn&#039;t make that money off book sales. The Clintons aren&#039;t as dirty as the Republicans would have us belieive, but that&#039;s not the same thing as being clean. 20 million. WOW. $20,000,000.  Some hero for the little guy. I wonder what strings are attached to that $20,000,000.  The Clintons sure have a lot of money. Damn. I wish I had $20,000,000. I shoulda entered politics I guess. Looks like a great way to get rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, as someone who has worked in TV production, as someone who has operated teleprompters, let me disavow you all of this notion he relies on them. He doesn&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>Why would he? Like Hillary, they basically give the same speech 6 times a day. I think they have it down by now.</p>
<p>Hillary has come a long way in her delivery, you guys can relax, no need to keep trying to diminish Barack&#8217;s speeches. </p>
<p>MSNBC is reporting Hillary is about to drop another 20 million of her own money into the campaign. Who would ever have imagined working in the public sector could be so lucrative! That&#8217;s an amazing figure. And no, she didn&#8217;t make that money off book sales. The Clintons aren&#8217;t as dirty as the Republicans would have us belieive, but that&#8217;s not the same thing as being clean. 20 million. WOW. $20,000,000.  Some hero for the little guy. I wonder what strings are attached to that $20,000,000.  The Clintons sure have a lot of money. Damn. I wish I had $20,000,000. I shoulda entered politics I guess. Looks like a great way to get rich.</p>
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		<title>By: alrudder</title>
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		<dc:creator>alrudder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worst possible outcome to this dream Primary season would be for one side (particularly if it is the Clintons) to wrest the nominaitno, if they get less popular votes.

Superdelegates have to think in their own interest.  Would they risk a convention fight for their favorite presidential candidate even if it means losing strength in Congress?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst possible outcome to this dream Primary season would be for one side (particularly if it is the Clintons) to wrest the nominaitno, if they get less popular votes.</p>
<p>Superdelegates have to think in their own interest.  Would they risk a convention fight for their favorite presidential candidate even if it means losing strength in Congress?</p>
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		<title>By: BobKrumm.com &#187; John McCain really could win . . . maybe that&#8217;s why some Republicans are so scared</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobKrumm.com &#187; John McCain really could win . . . maybe that&#8217;s why some Republicans are so scared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Democratic Daily:  Democrats will once again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stuart O'Neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian: There is no such thing anymore as a true &#039;brokered&#039; convention. 

Howard Dean is using old language and old thoughts. If we went to the convention undecided there would be a rules fight over when the delegates would be released from promises. 

Usually this is just one vote. 

Then the voting is in the open. It would be a chessgame and dealmaking game of enormous proportions but it wouldn&#039;t be a group of backroom people making a decision.

The delegates are no longer lead by the nose by Party leaders. They think for themselves. If released from their promises I think it could be very interesting indeed.

And if anyone can figure out how to have more delegates on less votes it&#039;s Barrack Obama. He&#039;s a consummate organizer and he&#039;s figured out the caucus game completely. I have no doubt the evangelical fervor of his rhetoric and campaign would drive huge numbers of people to any caucus in any weather. Substance doesn&#039;t matter to the voters that are carrying him....emotion does.

Very old school political techniques with old school fundraising combined with an effective online money raising tool to run what he wants us to believe is a new and different kind of campaign. Only his soaring rhetoric, when he&#039;s got his teleprompter s, is new.

See a post I will make later on that topic. Age and Political Memory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian: There is no such thing anymore as a true &#8216;brokered&#8217; convention. </p>
<p>Howard Dean is using old language and old thoughts. If we went to the convention undecided there would be a rules fight over when the delegates would be released from promises. </p>
<p>Usually this is just one vote. </p>
<p>Then the voting is in the open. It would be a chessgame and dealmaking game of enormous proportions but it wouldn&#8217;t be a group of backroom people making a decision.</p>
<p>The delegates are no longer lead by the nose by Party leaders. They think for themselves. If released from their promises I think it could be very interesting indeed.</p>
<p>And if anyone can figure out how to have more delegates on less votes it&#8217;s Barrack Obama. He&#8217;s a consummate organizer and he&#8217;s figured out the caucus game completely. I have no doubt the evangelical fervor of his rhetoric and campaign would drive huge numbers of people to any caucus in any weather. Substance doesn&#8217;t matter to the voters that are carrying him&#8230;.emotion does.</p>
<p>Very old school political techniques with old school fundraising combined with an effective online money raising tool to run what he wants us to believe is a new and different kind of campaign. Only his soaring rhetoric, when he&#8217;s got his teleprompter s, is new.</p>
<p>See a post I will make later on that topic. Age and Political Memory.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell Prows</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrell Prows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sense is that most countries do their entire elections in the time left after the Convention. The key is going to be to fight loud and hard for a large number of debates, and make the other side pay the price for not giving the people a chance to engage that way.

It&#039;s heresy in some circles to say this, but Sen. Clinton got more total delegates from their home states combined than did Sen. Obama. Add in California and this thing doesn&#039;t even look close.

Of course it is close and I actually expect Obama to slip through. My only point, then, is that all of this talk about there being only one &quot;correct&quot; candidate seems to be misguided. Will all of the Obamaites go into a snit and sit out the general if their guy doesn&#039;t pull off the top spot? Does it even matter given the fact that the Republican base is at least as unhappy with the choice of their party as the left side of the Democrats are? 

(Full disclosure: I&#039;m far to the left of either of the two choices, both of which I conider to be slightly right of cnter.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sense is that most countries do their entire elections in the time left after the Convention. The key is going to be to fight loud and hard for a large number of debates, and make the other side pay the price for not giving the people a chance to engage that way.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s heresy in some circles to say this, but Sen. Clinton got more total delegates from their home states combined than did Sen. Obama. Add in California and this thing doesn&#8217;t even look close.</p>
<p>Of course it is close and I actually expect Obama to slip through. My only point, then, is that all of this talk about there being only one &#8220;correct&#8221; candidate seems to be misguided. Will all of the Obamaites go into a snit and sit out the general if their guy doesn&#8217;t pull off the top spot? Does it even matter given the fact that the Republican base is at least as unhappy with the choice of their party as the left side of the Democrats are? </p>
<p>(Full disclosure: I&#8217;m far to the left of either of the two choices, both of which I conider to be slightly right of cnter.)</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell Prows</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrell Prows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When &quot;The Straight Talk Express&quot; rolls into town and promises 100 more years of Iraq, and no real soultion for any real problem it should be a short journey back to where it came from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When &#8220;The Straight Talk Express&#8221; rolls into town and promises 100 more years of Iraq, and no real soultion for any real problem it should be a short journey back to where it came from.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Luce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Luce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela, how are you going to feel if Hillary wins the popular vote, has more delegates, wins more states, and has more superdelegates but Obama is annointed  by the democratic hacks for no other reason than  he offers the hacks a better package? 

Your girl wins, fair and square, but the nomination goes to a dude.  That&#039;s unfair and is the very thing women have been fighting against for generations. It&#039;s also undemocratic. Yet it may happen. Think that will excite and inspire you for November? 

It&#039;ll make me think, what&#039;s the point of engaging in democracy if the insider hacks are making all the decisions. It&#039;s not &quot;wishful thinking&quot; and it&#039;s not a stretch to argue that a lot of people will just stay home.  And that wouldn&#039;t be cynical, it&#039;d be analysis, if that&#039;s how this breaks. 

It&#039;ll make 2008 feel like  2004 all over again which felt like 2000 all over again. What&#039;s the point of elections? Are they mere guidelines for the insider hacks? 

The Democratic party never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Look at the genius move they started the cycle with: disenfranchising  Florida and Michigan.  Floridians were showing up on Tuesday with ballots asking where to vote. That&#039;s shameful. 

William, all the oldtimers, like Dan Rather, who has covered elections since 1952,  are saying there&#039;s never been an election like this. People are coming out of the woodwork to engage. The internet, GWB, the economy have created  a creature no one has seen before--assuming past performance is indicative of future results may be a big mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela, how are you going to feel if Hillary wins the popular vote, has more delegates, wins more states, and has more superdelegates but Obama is annointed  by the democratic hacks for no other reason than  he offers the hacks a better package? </p>
<p>Your girl wins, fair and square, but the nomination goes to a dude.  That&#8217;s unfair and is the very thing women have been fighting against for generations. It&#8217;s also undemocratic. Yet it may happen. Think that will excite and inspire you for November? </p>
<p>It&#8217;ll make me think, what&#8217;s the point of engaging in democracy if the insider hacks are making all the decisions. It&#8217;s not &#8220;wishful thinking&#8221; and it&#8217;s not a stretch to argue that a lot of people will just stay home.  And that wouldn&#8217;t be cynical, it&#8217;d be analysis, if that&#8217;s how this breaks. </p>
<p>It&#8217;ll make 2008 feel like  2004 all over again which felt like 2000 all over again. What&#8217;s the point of elections? Are they mere guidelines for the insider hacks? </p>
<p>The Democratic party never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Look at the genius move they started the cycle with: disenfranchising  Florida and Michigan.  Floridians were showing up on Tuesday with ballots asking where to vote. That&#8217;s shameful. </p>
<p>William, all the oldtimers, like Dan Rather, who has covered elections since 1952,  are saying there&#8217;s never been an election like this. People are coming out of the woodwork to engage. The internet, GWB, the economy have created  a creature no one has seen before&#8211;assuming past performance is indicative of future results may be a big mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William A. Stoddart 

Well said my friend... with lots of truth and common sense. 

I would be concerned that we might not have the edge we need if we go into the convention with out the nominee, but hey, think of how interesting it will all be. It&#039;s been years since we&#039;ve had such an exciting process. And some time soon we will all come together and put a Dem in the White House!</description>
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<p>Well said my friend&#8230; with lots of truth and common sense. </p>
<p>I would be concerned that we might not have the edge we need if we go into the convention with out the nominee, but hey, think of how interesting it will all be. It&#8217;s been years since we&#8217;ve had such an exciting process. And some time soon we will all come together and put a Dem in the White House!</p>
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