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	<title>Comments on: Hillary Clinton Is My Choice&#8211;part 2&#8211;Why I Cannot Support Sen. Obama</title>
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		<title>By: PK</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support Hillary Clinton. Why, well to be honest in watching Mr Obama, I see much of the very things he is critical of in others.
He accuses Ms Clinton of having monied supporters and owing favors, yet he has sought out those same supporters and many of the same contributors,  His surrogates cried racism whenever Ms Clinton might be gaining support.  While Ms. Clinton is constantly heralded by sexism in the media Obama stands silent.  Silence at Ms. Clinton&#039;s handling with regard to sexism (not issues) is not the only occasion for silence by Mr. Obama.  He, while in Washington D.C., the day of the vote to shame Move On for language, Mr Obama chose NOT to vote at all.  Like Move On or hate Move On is irrelevant.  What was relevant was that an organization of private inviduals were being  shamed and censured by government for their exercise of free speech.  Was this appropriate for a man who taught Constitutional Law?  In my mind no.   What instead prevailed was a politician wary of the media and calculating what taking a position might cost!  In my mind that is not a leader at all. Those are the actions of one more consumed with obtaining something for himself than doing what is right.  

Im still waiting for Mr or Ms. Smith to come to Washington truly with change on their minds. Not change as a slogan used to rally a crowd, but change in his / her soul the kind of change which means damm the media or anyone who attempts to silence anyone for the fair expression of their thoughts, change which means doing what is right no matter what even if it would cost some power, some monied contributions, change which means we are forthright not purposely vague, not silent by a non vote, not sitting by observing or profiting from discrimination whether of race, gender, age or religion and insuring that the best ways are followed.  

I dont see this in Mr Obama whose early writings indicated he was for real health care reform, not what he is now tauting as good policy, something less than genuine, something which insures a good segment of the populartion remains uninsured, something still completely governed by private corporations and subsidies which may end up less than what you think. I see a man who has often caved in and says he has not. I see a man who speaks of ethics yet has his own indiscretions which he claims was just a mistake. Well, a Constitutional lawyer with a well educated Princeton graduate for a wife doesnt see that having a local businessman buy property you want for your own home and offer it to you at 1/2 price as you are rising in local politics is wrong, is kidding himself and I would be a fool to buy into that.  Even I yes educated myself though admittedly not in an IVY league insitution knows something about such an offer smells foul.  

Ive heard about the Clinton ambitions and more. However, I have also seen Ms Clinton in New York.  I have seen her change the minds of conservatives, I have seen her able to work with one who once sought her downfall (Mr Gingrich) and I have seen under Bill Clinton people move from poverty into the middle class.  If that can happen in this day, a day when so much is wrong I would welcome it and her.  

So I say sorry Mr Obama, but Im sticking with the woman.  Chris Matthews and MSNBC be dammed for the woman seems the right gal for the job ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support Hillary Clinton. Why, well to be honest in watching Mr Obama, I see much of the very things he is critical of in others.<br />
He accuses Ms Clinton of having monied supporters and owing favors, yet he has sought out those same supporters and many of the same contributors,  His surrogates cried racism whenever Ms Clinton might be gaining support.  While Ms. Clinton is constantly heralded by sexism in the media Obama stands silent.  Silence at Ms. Clinton&#8217;s handling with regard to sexism (not issues) is not the only occasion for silence by Mr. Obama.  He, while in Washington D.C., the day of the vote to shame Move On for language, Mr Obama chose NOT to vote at all.  Like Move On or hate Move On is irrelevant.  What was relevant was that an organization of private inviduals were being  shamed and censured by government for their exercise of free speech.  Was this appropriate for a man who taught Constitutional Law?  In my mind no.   What instead prevailed was a politician wary of the media and calculating what taking a position might cost!  In my mind that is not a leader at all. Those are the actions of one more consumed with obtaining something for himself than doing what is right.  </p>
<p>Im still waiting for Mr or Ms. Smith to come to Washington truly with change on their minds. Not change as a slogan used to rally a crowd, but change in his / her soul the kind of change which means damm the media or anyone who attempts to silence anyone for the fair expression of their thoughts, change which means doing what is right no matter what even if it would cost some power, some monied contributions, change which means we are forthright not purposely vague, not silent by a non vote, not sitting by observing or profiting from discrimination whether of race, gender, age or religion and insuring that the best ways are followed.  </p>
<p>I dont see this in Mr Obama whose early writings indicated he was for real health care reform, not what he is now tauting as good policy, something less than genuine, something which insures a good segment of the populartion remains uninsured, something still completely governed by private corporations and subsidies which may end up less than what you think. I see a man who has often caved in and says he has not. I see a man who speaks of ethics yet has his own indiscretions which he claims was just a mistake. Well, a Constitutional lawyer with a well educated Princeton graduate for a wife doesnt see that having a local businessman buy property you want for your own home and offer it to you at 1/2 price as you are rising in local politics is wrong, is kidding himself and I would be a fool to buy into that.  Even I yes educated myself though admittedly not in an IVY league insitution knows something about such an offer smells foul.  </p>
<p>Ive heard about the Clinton ambitions and more. However, I have also seen Ms Clinton in New York.  I have seen her change the minds of conservatives, I have seen her able to work with one who once sought her downfall (Mr Gingrich) and I have seen under Bill Clinton people move from poverty into the middle class.  If that can happen in this day, a day when so much is wrong I would welcome it and her.  </p>
<p>So I say sorry Mr Obama, but Im sticking with the woman.  Chris Matthews and MSNBC be dammed for the woman seems the right gal for the job ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: Presidential election 2008 &#124;Republicans Vs. Democrats &#187; Comment on Hillary Clinton Is My Choiceâ€“part 2â€“Why I Cannot &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Presidential election 2008 &#124;Republicans Vs. Democrats &#187; Comment on Hillary Clinton Is My Choiceâ€“part 2â€“Why I Cannot &#8230;</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] on Hillary Clinton Is My Choiceâ€“part 2â€“Why I Cannot &#8230; February 20th, 2008    pc25 wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptFor one, I think Hillaryâ€™s position [...]</description>
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		<title>By: women know the drill &#171; yikes!</title>
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		<dc:creator>women know the drill &#171; yikes!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;American culture dictates that demeaning women is acceptable behavior. But by remaining silent, Obama is either knowingly profiting from the bigotry, or he is part and parcel of a cultural belief that it is acceptable to heap all manner of abuse upon women. Those are the only two alternatives, and they are both disturbing.&#8221; &#8211; Diane Elayne Dees [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;American culture dictates that demeaning women is acceptable behavior. But by remaining silent, Obama is either knowingly profiting from the bigotry, or he is part and parcel of a cultural belief that it is acceptable to heap all manner of abuse upon women. Those are the only two alternatives, and they are both disturbing.&#8221; &#8211; Diane Elayne Dees [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Redstar Perspective &#187; Post-Primary Round-Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Redstar Perspective &#187; Post-Primary Round-Up</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Ironically, if unsurprisingly, the question of inauthenticity looms.  On this conservatives and Green Party members.  No one said he wasn&#8217;t a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Desider</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ladies,
Please consider dealing with the question of the war vote.

For one, I think Hillary&#039;s position was nuanced, correct, and tried to push the responsible action while dealing with 2 vain and erratic figures,  Hussein and Bush, in a time of great concern over terrorism. But she&#039;s gotten only grief for this, as if she actually said &quot;let&#039;s invade&quot; instead of &quot;let&#039;s get the inspectors back in and pull the UN together&quot;. Imagine if she had said &quot;Hussein is absolutely no danger&quot;. Would Republicans be crossing over to vote for her?

Second, this is overshadowing everything from Donnie McGurkin to Obama&#039;s more limited health care to his global warming (&quot;we&#039;re going to get great thinkers together and study it&quot; - heard that before?) to his attacks on Hillary from the right and his appeal to crossover McCain supporters for the primaries. 

Thirdly, Hillary&#039;s qualifications have been marginalized from day 1. All of her travel as First Lady, her child and women&#039;s initiatives, became an outing with Sheryl Crowe and Sinbad. Her lawyer credentials and work on poverty and family issues are buried under &quot;Rose Law Firm&quot;. Her early experience with the Watergate Committee, Mondale Labor Board and Carter&#039;s anti-poverty trust are simply ignored. She published papers (including with Harvard), worked Yale&#039;s Review of Law and Social Action, did scholarly research, and taught law at a university -but this doesn&#039;t seem to count as experience.  She was involved in numerous campaigns and vote drives from the mid-60&#039;s on, but it doesn&#039;t count if it&#039;s not South Side Chicago. Just as in 1992, she&#039;s shoved into a dumb housewife role, nothing to do with Bill&#039;s success, let all those menfolk talk about how smart they are and get back in the kitchen &amp; fix Chelsea some cookies (as if not cooking is ever an option for a woman). And now at 60 they call Romney &quot;young&quot; and Hillary &quot;old&quot;. Guess she needs a better tanning salon to add to her day&#039;s duties. Guess she should have run in 2004 as an inexperienced newbie Senator.

But it all comes down to that one vote, the one that so many Wise Men of Washington did the same way, the one the people of the US supported, the one that some wiseacre from the South Side didn&#039;t have to make - he was simply backseat driving while she and others were at the wheel. But in politics, having the loudest most simplistic voice usually carries the day. &quot;Change, Hope&quot;, &quot;Axis of Evil, Terruh, Uniter Not a Divider&quot;. Too bad &quot;Experience&quot; doesn&#039;t count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ladies,<br />
Please consider dealing with the question of the war vote.</p>
<p>For one, I think Hillary&#8217;s position was nuanced, correct, and tried to push the responsible action while dealing with 2 vain and erratic figures,  Hussein and Bush, in a time of great concern over terrorism. But she&#8217;s gotten only grief for this, as if she actually said &#8220;let&#8217;s invade&#8221; instead of &#8220;let&#8217;s get the inspectors back in and pull the UN together&#8221;. Imagine if she had said &#8220;Hussein is absolutely no danger&#8221;. Would Republicans be crossing over to vote for her?</p>
<p>Second, this is overshadowing everything from Donnie McGurkin to Obama&#8217;s more limited health care to his global warming (&#8220;we&#8217;re going to get great thinkers together and study it&#8221; &#8211; heard that before?) to his attacks on Hillary from the right and his appeal to crossover McCain supporters for the primaries. </p>
<p>Thirdly, Hillary&#8217;s qualifications have been marginalized from day 1. All of her travel as First Lady, her child and women&#8217;s initiatives, became an outing with Sheryl Crowe and Sinbad. Her lawyer credentials and work on poverty and family issues are buried under &#8220;Rose Law Firm&#8221;. Her early experience with the Watergate Committee, Mondale Labor Board and Carter&#8217;s anti-poverty trust are simply ignored. She published papers (including with Harvard), worked Yale&#8217;s Review of Law and Social Action, did scholarly research, and taught law at a university -but this doesn&#8217;t seem to count as experience.  She was involved in numerous campaigns and vote drives from the mid-60&#8242;s on, but it doesn&#8217;t count if it&#8217;s not South Side Chicago. Just as in 1992, she&#8217;s shoved into a dumb housewife role, nothing to do with Bill&#8217;s success, let all those menfolk talk about how smart they are and get back in the kitchen &amp; fix Chelsea some cookies (as if not cooking is ever an option for a woman). And now at 60 they call Romney &#8220;young&#8221; and Hillary &#8220;old&#8221;. Guess she needs a better tanning salon to add to her day&#8217;s duties. Guess she should have run in 2004 as an inexperienced newbie Senator.</p>
<p>But it all comes down to that one vote, the one that so many Wise Men of Washington did the same way, the one the people of the US supported, the one that some wiseacre from the South Side didn&#8217;t have to make &#8211; he was simply backseat driving while she and others were at the wheel. But in politics, having the loudest most simplistic voice usually carries the day. &#8220;Change, Hope&#8221;, &#8220;Axis of Evil, Terruh, Uniter Not a Divider&#8221;. Too bad &#8220;Experience&#8221; doesn&#8217;t count.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Elayne Dees</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane Elayne Dees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unlike the author, I will support the democratic party’s nominee regardless of whether it is Senator Clinton or Senator Obama. &quot;

Wendy has also been reading some invisible ink. Nowhere in the editorial do I talk about whom I will support once the Democratic candidate has been selected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unlike the author, I will support the democratic party’s nominee regardless of whether it is Senator Clinton or Senator Obama. &#8221;</p>
<p>Wendy has also been reading some invisible ink. Nowhere in the editorial do I talk about whom I will support once the Democratic candidate has been selected.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wendy

Surely in this day and age we shouldn&#039;t be dealing with sexism and surely as her opponent and a Democrat, Barack Obama shouldn&#039;t be using sexist memes against her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy</p>
<p>Surely in this day and age we shouldn&#8217;t be dealing with sexism and surely as her opponent and a Democrat, Barack Obama shouldn&#8217;t be using sexist memes against her.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Horgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Horgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a 57 year old white, retired lawyer and a supporter of Obama.  Unlike the author, I will support the democratic party&#039;s nominee regardless of whether it is Senator Clinton or Senator Obama.  My preferance for Obama is based on my sense that he has extraordinary skills as a communicator and educator who will be able to bring together a working majority of Americans to effect the progressive legislation that is favored by both Obama and Clinton.  As an active supporter of HRC, I am persuaded that Obama&#039;s big tent politics is more likely to be successful in changing attitudes like those of anti-gay Donnie McClurkin.  But most of all, as a woman, I am tired of victim politics.  I think Senator Obama&#039;s success is based in large measure on his rejection of race-based and victim politics.  Surely Senator Clinton should be fully capable of defending herself against sexism as Senator Obama and indeed all the presidential candidates have dealt with other attacks against themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a 57 year old white, retired lawyer and a supporter of Obama.  Unlike the author, I will support the democratic party&#8217;s nominee regardless of whether it is Senator Clinton or Senator Obama.  My preferance for Obama is based on my sense that he has extraordinary skills as a communicator and educator who will be able to bring together a working majority of Americans to effect the progressive legislation that is favored by both Obama and Clinton.  As an active supporter of HRC, I am persuaded that Obama&#8217;s big tent politics is more likely to be successful in changing attitudes like those of anti-gay Donnie McClurkin.  But most of all, as a woman, I am tired of victim politics.  I think Senator Obama&#8217;s success is based in large measure on his rejection of race-based and victim politics.  Surely Senator Clinton should be fully capable of defending herself against sexism as Senator Obama and indeed all the presidential candidates have dealt with other attacks against themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Nichting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Nichting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a 50 year old white professional female and a supporter of Senator Clinton. I found your posting today and have added your website to my favorites. I&#039;ve been paying a lot of attention to the news media, pundits, blogs, etc. and have been dismayed and angered at the sexism and misogyny that is rampant. And what makes it worse is that our leaders have not spoken out about it - including our female and male poliltical leadears. There was much discussion earlier in the primary about racism following President Clinton&#039;s and Senator Clinton&#039;s remarks. Why are we not having a national discusion about sexism and misogyny following the outrageous comments made by members of the news media? I agree that Senator Obama should have spoken out about it. And women&#039;s issues are not being discussed. Women are still paid only 70 cents on the dollar compared to men, women are raped and killed in the miliatry by their superiors, women are raped at our military academies, and serious, capable women are still forced to have their bodies discussed and made jokes about. I agree with your assessmet regarding Senator Obama&#039;s campaign. The hysteria and mania surrounding it are distrubing. I don&#039;t see any substance to &quot;the movement&quot; and think many people will be very disappointed. Senator Clinton can deliver and has proven it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a 50 year old white professional female and a supporter of Senator Clinton. I found your posting today and have added your website to my favorites. I&#8217;ve been paying a lot of attention to the news media, pundits, blogs, etc. and have been dismayed and angered at the sexism and misogyny that is rampant. And what makes it worse is that our leaders have not spoken out about it &#8211; including our female and male poliltical leadears. There was much discussion earlier in the primary about racism following President Clinton&#8217;s and Senator Clinton&#8217;s remarks. Why are we not having a national discusion about sexism and misogyny following the outrageous comments made by members of the news media? I agree that Senator Obama should have spoken out about it. And women&#8217;s issues are not being discussed. Women are still paid only 70 cents on the dollar compared to men, women are raped and killed in the miliatry by their superiors, women are raped at our military academies, and serious, capable women are still forced to have their bodies discussed and made jokes about. I agree with your assessmet regarding Senator Obama&#8217;s campaign. The hysteria and mania surrounding it are distrubing. I don&#8217;t see any substance to &#8220;the movement&#8221; and think many people will be very disappointed. Senator Clinton can deliver and has proven it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diane

More well thought out thinking and positions from you on why Hillary and not Obama. Thank you. 

Time for everyone to get involved: &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hillaryclinton.com/action/millioncalls/?sc=1601&amp;utm_source=1601&amp;utm_medium=e&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ONE MILLION CALLS FOR HILLARY&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diane</p>
<p>More well thought out thinking and positions from you on why Hillary and not Obama. Thank you. </p>
<p>Time for everyone to get involved: <strong><a href="http://www.hillaryclinton.com/action/millioncalls/?sc=1601&#038;utm_source=1601&#038;utm_medium=e" rel="nofollow">ONE MILLION CALLS FOR HILLARY</a></strong>!</p>
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