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		<title>By: Tweeking The Truth &#171; Justmytruth&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/14/the-marketing-of-obama-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-8878</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweeking The Truth &#171; Justmytruth&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  The Obama effort seems to be something wholly different. The campaign and its marketing seems designed to evoke aspirational feelings that have virtually no political meaning whatsoever. This is what great brands do. They evoke feelings that have virtually zero connection to product attributes and specifications. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  The Obama effort seems to be something wholly different. The campaign and its marketing seems designed to evoke aspirational feelings that have virtually no political meaning whatsoever. This is what great brands do. They evoke feelings that have virtually zero connection to product attributes and specifications. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: myopinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>myopinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know not all Obama supporters are lunatic-fringe for those of you who commented.  I did have &quot;black panther-style&quot; oratory/intimidation as well as a variety of other &quot;negative&quot; points of information delivered in my caucus by the &quot;inspirational team.&quot;  I&#039;ve also seen &quot;conspiracy theorists for Obama&quot; on Bill Mahr and know personally two former Nader voters for Obama.  (these were not the kids) Need I say more?
I have 15 years in the sales and marketing field and have no problem with good marketing.  What I do have a problem with is that this is a serious presidential election and Obama is lacking content to hold the #1 job in the entire world.  
The actual product will not perform as advertised!
The only reason we are having this conversation about snazzy marketing and the Obamapalooza at all is that there is such a dramatic difference in the qualifications of these two candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know not all Obama supporters are lunatic-fringe for those of you who commented.  I did have &#8220;black panther-style&#8221; oratory/intimidation as well as a variety of other &#8220;negative&#8221; points of information delivered in my caucus by the &#8220;inspirational team.&#8221;  I&#8217;ve also seen &#8220;conspiracy theorists for Obama&#8221; on Bill Mahr and know personally two former Nader voters for Obama.  (these were not the kids) Need I say more?<br />
I have 15 years in the sales and marketing field and have no problem with good marketing.  What I do have a problem with is that this is a serious presidential election and Obama is lacking content to hold the #1 job in the entire world.<br />
The actual product will not perform as advertised!<br />
The only reason we are having this conversation about snazzy marketing and the Obamapalooza at all is that there is such a dramatic difference in the qualifications of these two candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell Prows</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrell Prows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for the record, the term &quot;lunatic fringe&quot; has been copyrighted by the Ron Paul campaign. I&#039;m pretty sure that they will be issuing t-shirts to their &quot;fans&quot; with that as their new slogan. Obama voters may be overly exuberant but (a) younger people are like that; and (b) there&#039;s worse things than having excitement replace apathy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for the record, the term &#8220;lunatic fringe&#8221; has been copyrighted by the Ron Paul campaign. I&#8217;m pretty sure that they will be issuing t-shirts to their &#8220;fans&#8221; with that as their new slogan. Obama voters may be overly exuberant but (a) younger people are like that; and (b) there&#8217;s worse things than having excitement replace apathy.</p>
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		<title>By: alrudder</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/14/the-marketing-of-obama-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-5773</link>
		<dc:creator>alrudder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The opening paragraphs of this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-axelrod15feb15,1,1914498.story?ctrack=1&amp;cset=true&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article&lt;/a&gt; in today&#039;s LA Times sums it up.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
CHICAGO -- Sen. Barack Obama strode into a hotel ballroom filled with expectation one recent Tuesday and declared that his quest for the Oval Office, which &quot;began as a whisper in Springfield, has swelled to a chorus of millions calling for change.&quot;

That&#039;s the essence of the Illinois senator&#039;s message: Obama equals change; Hillary Rodham Clinton equals status quo. All else cascades from there. In this contest -- where the candidates are but a micron apart on most policy matters -- message is everything.

This simple theme has powered Obama to victory in 23 contests,&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The opening paragraphs of this <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-axelrod15feb15,1,1914498.story?ctrack=1&amp;cset=true" rel="nofollow">article</a> in today&#8217;s LA Times sums it up.</p>
<blockquote><p>
CHICAGO &#8212; Sen. Barack Obama strode into a hotel ballroom filled with expectation one recent Tuesday and declared that his quest for the Oval Office, which &#8220;began as a whisper in Springfield, has swelled to a chorus of millions calling for change.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the essence of the Illinois senator&#8217;s message: Obama equals change; Hillary Rodham Clinton equals status quo. All else cascades from there. In this contest &#8212; where the candidates are but a micron apart on most policy matters &#8212; message is everything.</p>
<p>This simple theme has powered Obama to victory in 23 contests,</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Trevor Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, some of his supporters know about his policies, &lt;a href=&quot;http://youtube.com/watch?v=kica8hmSdAM&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this video&lt;/a&gt; is a great example. I wish all of his supporters we&#039;re like this, actually, it&#039;d be nice if everyone&#039;s supporters were this informed and thoughtful.

I think that a large part of the &quot;marketing&quot; is done by people who aren&#039;t really associated with his campaign at all. The Obama girl was one of the earlier examples of this, and more recently, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dipdive.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;music video by will.i.am&lt;/a&gt;. I think the fact that people have been inspired by what Obama says (even if you don&#039;t agree with or like him he does say some fairly inspiring things) has done just as much if not more as any intentional marketing. The Obama campaign knew how to grab on to that wave though. It&#039;s like a company that makes a product for one use, but when people use it for something else that wasn&#039;t originally intended they realize they can make more money marketing it for that instead. For example, Coca-Cola started out as a medicinal syrup.

Of course, now that the politicians are starting to see the effectiveness of viral marketing, I think we&#039;re gong to be seeing a lot more stuff like this in future elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, some of his supporters know about his policies, <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=kica8hmSdAM" rel="nofollow">this video</a> is a great example. I wish all of his supporters we&#8217;re like this, actually, it&#8217;d be nice if everyone&#8217;s supporters were this informed and thoughtful.</p>
<p>I think that a large part of the &#8220;marketing&#8221; is done by people who aren&#8217;t really associated with his campaign at all. The Obama girl was one of the earlier examples of this, and more recently, the <a href="http://www.dipdive.com/" rel="nofollow">music video by will.i.am</a>. I think the fact that people have been inspired by what Obama says (even if you don&#8217;t agree with or like him he does say some fairly inspiring things) has done just as much if not more as any intentional marketing. The Obama campaign knew how to grab on to that wave though. It&#8217;s like a company that makes a product for one use, but when people use it for something else that wasn&#8217;t originally intended they realize they can make more money marketing it for that instead. For example, Coca-Cola started out as a medicinal syrup.</p>
<p>Of course, now that the politicians are starting to see the effectiveness of viral marketing, I think we&#8217;re gong to be seeing a lot more stuff like this in future elections.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buzz

Also the Sacramento Bee published a piece a few weeks ago that I already quoted in a post here. The Obama campaign&#039;s &quot;basic training&quot; here in CA, stressed not talking about Obama in terms of policy by merit of supporters&#039; conversion: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/649427.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;On the verge of&lt;/a&gt; a hectic few weeks leading to Super Tuesday, the crucial Feb. 5 multistate primary including California&#039;s, Mack wanted to drill home one of the campaign&#039;s key strategies: telling potential voters personal stories of political conversion.

She urged volunteers to hone their own stories of how they came to Obama – something they could compress into 30 seconds on the phone.

&quot;Work on that, refine that, say it in the mirror,&quot; she said. &quot;Get it down.&quot;

She told the volunteers that potential voters would no doubt confront them with policy questions. Mack&#039;s direction: Don&#039;t go there. Refer them to Obama&#039;s Web site, which includes enough material to sate any wonk.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wonderful - what ever happened to being able to actually discuss the issues and know your candidate&#039;s platform. No small wonder why people think he&#039;s lite on policy. Non of his supporters talk about it and likewise the candidate himself is just getting around to it, &lt;a href=&quot;http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/14/the-marketing-of-obama-2008/#comment-5733&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;as I noted above&lt;/a&gt;.

FYI, the Republican Noise Machine is kissing up to Obama with all the media love because he&#039;s no match for Hillary and they will roll over him with a steamroller. That&#039;s my opinion. And I stated it without using tired right wing talking points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buzz</p>
<p>Also the Sacramento Bee published a piece a few weeks ago that I already quoted in a post here. The Obama campaign&#8217;s &#8220;basic training&#8221; here in CA, stressed not talking about Obama in terms of policy by merit of supporters&#8217; conversion: </p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/649427.html" rel="nofollow">On the verge of</a> a hectic few weeks leading to Super Tuesday, the crucial Feb. 5 multistate primary including California&#8217;s, Mack wanted to drill home one of the campaign&#8217;s key strategies: telling potential voters personal stories of political conversion.</p>
<p>She urged volunteers to hone their own stories of how they came to Obama – something they could compress into 30 seconds on the phone.</p>
<p>&#8220;Work on that, refine that, say it in the mirror,&#8221; she said. &#8220;Get it down.&#8221;</p>
<p>She told the volunteers that potential voters would no doubt confront them with policy questions. Mack&#8217;s direction: Don&#8217;t go there. Refer them to Obama&#8217;s Web site, which includes enough material to sate any wonk.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wonderful &#8211; what ever happened to being able to actually discuss the issues and know your candidate&#8217;s platform. No small wonder why people think he&#8217;s lite on policy. Non of his supporters talk about it and likewise the candidate himself is just getting around to it, <a href="http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/14/the-marketing-of-obama-2008/#comment-5733" rel="nofollow">as I noted above</a>.</p>
<p>FYI, the Republican Noise Machine is kissing up to Obama with all the media love because he&#8217;s no match for Hillary and they will roll over him with a steamroller. That&#8217;s my opinion. And I stated it without using tired right wing talking points.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buzz

You know this was a decent conversation about the marketing aspects of the campaign. An attack on Obama - it wouldn&#039;t even come close to an attack if we weighed it up against your comment dropping the same old tired right wing talking points about HRC, that I have asked repeatedly (&lt;em&gt;and politiely&lt;/em&gt;) for months that you don&#039;t continue to post here.

I&#039;m trying really hard to all the conversation civil here. I&#039;m trying really hard to moderate comments as little as possible here, and I really don&#039;t want to ask again. You are valued member here Buzz.  

Many of us feel that Obama would lead us to a &quot;third presidential defeat.&quot; It&#039;s not going to help those of us who feel that way to post the vile innuendo about Obama here -- is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buzz</p>
<p>You know this was a decent conversation about the marketing aspects of the campaign. An attack on Obama &#8211; it wouldn&#8217;t even come close to an attack if we weighed it up against your comment dropping the same old tired right wing talking points about HRC, that I have asked repeatedly (<em>and politiely</em>) for months that you don&#8217;t continue to post here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying really hard to all the conversation civil here. I&#8217;m trying really hard to moderate comments as little as possible here, and I really don&#8217;t want to ask again. You are valued member here Buzz.  </p>
<p>Many of us feel that Obama would lead us to a &#8220;third presidential defeat.&#8221; It&#8217;s not going to help those of us who feel that way to post the vile innuendo about Obama here &#8212; is it?</p>
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		<title>By: William A. Stoddart</title>
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		<dc:creator>William A. Stoddart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, now Obama is being attacked on the false premiss that his campaign lacks content on issues.   This is just plain wrong.  He has clear, concise, statements on all important national and inter-national issues.   If you want to take the time to see what they are, you can look them up on his website, Obama.com.  
This man has far more going for him than Hillary.  He is young, charismatic, a good speaker, knowledgeable, couragious, and inspires hope for positive change whenever he speaks.
I fail to see how four or eight more years of the Clinton&#039;s represents change.  I know that I will be taken to task for saying this again, but Hillary brings entirely too much negative baggage with her.  Do we really want to revisit Vince Fosters&#039; death, Arkansas land deals, Bill&#039;s sexual escapades, her failed chance at medical reform etc. etc.  The GOP baintrust has publically gone on record in stating that they would much rather have Hillary as their opponent in November.  Polls also indicate that Barack would beat Senator McCain by a large margin.  So, if you are in to gambeling, just vote for Hillary and then pray that we don&#039;t suffer our third consecutive presidential defeat !!                  Buzz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, now Obama is being attacked on the false premiss that his campaign lacks content on issues.   This is just plain wrong.  He has clear, concise, statements on all important national and inter-national issues.   If you want to take the time to see what they are, you can look them up on his website, Obama.com.<br />
This man has far more going for him than Hillary.  He is young, charismatic, a good speaker, knowledgeable, couragious, and inspires hope for positive change whenever he speaks.<br />
I fail to see how four or eight more years of the Clinton&#8217;s represents change.  I know that I will be taken to task for saying this again, but Hillary brings entirely too much negative baggage with her.  Do we really want to revisit Vince Fosters&#8217; death, Arkansas land deals, Bill&#8217;s sexual escapades, her failed chance at medical reform etc. etc.  The GOP baintrust has publically gone on record in stating that they would much rather have Hillary as their opponent in November.  Polls also indicate that Barack would beat Senator McCain by a large margin.  So, if you are in to gambeling, just vote for Hillary and then pray that we don&#8217;t suffer our third consecutive presidential defeat !!                  Buzz</p>
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		<title>By: alrudder</title>
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		<dc:creator>alrudder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trevor, the answer to your last question is YES.  Also, modern dynamic management and organization will become the norm in large races.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevor, the answer to your last question is YES.  Also, modern dynamic management and organization will become the norm in large races.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trevor

&lt;blockquote&gt;In most other places there is just a constant back and forth of short lines such as “experience” vs. “hope.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s a lot of that in the blogosphere. 

I do think that marketing is integral part of campaigns at this point. Was it you I pointed to the book &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.applebeesamerica.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Applebee&#039;s America&lt;/a&gt;?  All the prevelance of demographics we are seeing in this race is a huge part of marketing a candidate to the voters. The Bush campaign was simply far more successful in &#039;04 than we were, in part by target marketing to voters.

We are by and large a consumer society. If voters go to the booth on style over substance that doesn&#039;t say a lot in my opinion. But remember last time around people chose the guy the wanted to have a beer with. Me I wanted the guy who had the policy creds and the experience. I&#039;m going there again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevor</p>
<blockquote><p>In most other places there is just a constant back and forth of short lines such as “experience” vs. “hope.”</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of that in the blogosphere. </p>
<p>I do think that marketing is integral part of campaigns at this point. Was it you I pointed to the book <a href="http://www.applebeesamerica.com/" rel="nofollow">Applebee&#8217;s America</a>?  All the prevelance of demographics we are seeing in this race is a huge part of marketing a candidate to the voters. The Bush campaign was simply far more successful in &#8217;04 than we were, in part by target marketing to voters.</p>
<p>We are by and large a consumer society. If voters go to the booth on style over substance that doesn&#8217;t say a lot in my opinion. But remember last time around people chose the guy the wanted to have a beer with. Me I wanted the guy who had the policy creds and the experience. I&#8217;m going there again.</p>
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