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		<title>By: kenoshaMarge</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/24/the-netroots-police/comment-page-1/#comment-6332</link>
		<dc:creator>kenoshaMarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that there&#039;s a whole lot of people that don&#039;t like the tone or the unfairness of most of the A List blogs. Many of us have left and sought friendlier climes. Like here where we can state that we support Hillary Clinton without being bombarded with invective.

 
Because we did not  support Obama we fled the wrath of the Obamatrons. It is doubtful, actually absolutely certain in my case, that we will return to the blogs that have slandered, slimed, and lied about our candidate and insulted those of us that support her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that there&#8217;s a whole lot of people that don&#8217;t like the tone or the unfairness of most of the A List blogs. Many of us have left and sought friendlier climes. Like here where we can state that we support Hillary Clinton without being bombarded with invective.</p>
<p>Because we did not  support Obama we fled the wrath of the Obamatrons. It is doubtful, actually absolutely certain in my case, that we will return to the blogs that have slandered, slimed, and lied about our candidate and insulted those of us that support her.</p>
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		<title>By: Kellyk</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/24/the-netroots-police/comment-page-1/#comment-6302</link>
		<dc:creator>Kellyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey tas,

BTD has endorsed Obama over Clinton.

Kneejerk much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey tas,</p>
<p>BTD has endorsed Obama over Clinton.</p>
<p>Kneejerk much?</p>
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		<title>By: The Democratic Daily</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/24/the-netroots-police/comment-page-1/#comment-6289</link>
		<dc:creator>The Democratic Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;More On Republicans for Obama...&lt;/strong&gt;

Dallas News reports that early voters are swarming Texas. The other day I worte about the movement of some Texas Republicans who are planning to vote for Obama in the primary and then switch back to vote for McCain in general election. Some of us ar...</description>
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<p>Dallas News reports that early voters are swarming Texas. The other day I worte about the movement of some Texas Republicans who are planning to vote for Obama in the primary and then switch back to vote for McCain in general election. Some of us ar&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/24/the-netroots-police/comment-page-1/#comment-6277</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tas

There&#039;s plenty wrong with what Booman said, including the tidbits that Lambert &lt;a href=&quot;http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/24/the-netroots-police/#comment-6263&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pointed out here&lt;/a&gt;. 

Look, the bottomline is this -- Talk Left and any other progressive blog that supports Clinton has the right to do so in the primary season. That is called DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM OF SPEECH, as well. 

Because Talk Left, myself and other progressive bloggers are backing HRC, that does not mean we have lost credibility, it means we have a different opinion on who is best suited to be the Democratic nominee and we have a right to back who we please. 

For Booman to assert that Talk Left or any other progressive blogger won&#039;t be on board in the GE if Obama is the nominee is simply ludicrous. We&#039;ve all (HRC supporters) made it very clear that we will back the nominee. 

I don&#039;t see any HRC supporting blogs asking if the progressive bloggers will support HRC if she manages to pull off the nomination. But since you think Booman is right -- I will ask you - &lt;strong&gt;Will you support HRC in the GE&lt;/strong&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tas</p>
<p>There&#8217;s plenty wrong with what Booman said, including the tidbits that Lambert <a href="http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/24/the-netroots-police/#comment-6263" rel="nofollow">pointed out here</a>. </p>
<p>Look, the bottomline is this &#8212; Talk Left and any other progressive blog that supports Clinton has the right to do so in the primary season. That is called DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM OF SPEECH, as well. </p>
<p>Because Talk Left, myself and other progressive bloggers are backing HRC, that does not mean we have lost credibility, it means we have a different opinion on who is best suited to be the Democratic nominee and we have a right to back who we please. </p>
<p>For Booman to assert that Talk Left or any other progressive blogger won&#8217;t be on board in the GE if Obama is the nominee is simply ludicrous. We&#8217;ve all (HRC supporters) made it very clear that we will back the nominee. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see any HRC supporting blogs asking if the progressive bloggers will support HRC if she manages to pull off the nomination. But since you think Booman is right &#8212; I will ask you &#8211; <strong>Will you support HRC in the GE</strong>?</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/24/the-netroots-police/comment-page-1/#comment-6273</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lambert

Jeralyn&#039;s question was very relevant and it&#039;s a damn shame these folks with the enemies list have their heads stuck so far up you know where that they can&#039;t see it. I&#039;m heading over to your place to say hello!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lambert</p>
<p>Jeralyn&#8217;s question was very relevant and it&#8217;s a damn shame these folks with the enemies list have their heads stuck so far up you know where that they can&#8217;t see it. I&#8217;m heading over to your place to say hello!</p>
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		<title>By: tas</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/24/the-netroots-police/comment-page-1/#comment-6272</link>
		<dc:creator>tas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Booman (Booman Tribune) has apparently taken on the role of Netroots Police and has deemed that Talk Left for the Clinton leanings probably shouldn’t be trusted after the primaries are over, to “get back on board” for the general election.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And what&#039;s wrong with Booman&#039;s statement?  When Talk Left burns all their credibility running defense for Hillary, including ridiculous assertions that Obama is sexist for using the word &quot;periiodiically,&quot; then they don&#039;t deserve to be as respected as they once were before the 2008 primaries.  That&#039;s what Jeralyn gets -- and deserves -- for her uncritical support of Hillary, as well as subjecting us to the atrocious biases of Armando/Big Tent Democrat.  (Ironic how Armando claims he&#039;s for the &quot;big tent&quot; while doing so much to exclude anyone who disagrees with him.) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And if you don&#039;t like this, too bad.  Look up &quot;credibility&quot; in the dictionary and then get back to me.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Booman (Booman Tribune) has apparently taken on the role of Netroots Police and has deemed that Talk Left for the Clinton leanings probably shouldn’t be trusted after the primaries are over, to “get back on board” for the general election.</i></p>
<p>And what&#8217;s wrong with Booman&#8217;s statement?  When Talk Left burns all their credibility running defense for Hillary, including ridiculous assertions that Obama is sexist for using the word &#8220;periiodiically,&#8221; then they don&#8217;t deserve to be as respected as they once were before the 2008 primaries.  That&#8217;s what Jeralyn gets &#8212; and deserves &#8212; for her uncritical support of Hillary, as well as subjecting us to the atrocious biases of Armando/Big Tent Democrat.  (Ironic how Armando claims he&#8217;s for the &#8220;big tent&#8221; while doing so much to exclude anyone who disagrees with him.) </p>
<p>And if you don&#8217;t like this, too bad.  Look up &#8220;credibility&#8221; in the dictionary and then get back to me.</p>
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		<title>By: kenoshaMarge</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/24/the-netroots-police/comment-page-1/#comment-6264</link>
		<dc:creator>kenoshaMarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one small bit of evidence of crossover voting here in Wisconsin. These ethically challenged folks not only played our system of open registration but are bragging about it in the states largest, and conservative paper. http://www.jsonline.com/content/forum/primary.asp

Sadly my vote for Hillary Clinton was negated by some Republican thug with no ethics or integrity that will then proudly cast a vote for McCain in November.

Our system of open and same day registration in Wisconsin is supposed to make voting easier for everyone. Trust the Republicans to play the system for their own benefit. May be legal, but for people that spout about their &quot;values&quot; it sure isn&#039;t ethical or something done by people of integrity. Guess those things are of value to them like they are to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one small bit of evidence of crossover voting here in Wisconsin. These ethically challenged folks not only played our system of open registration but are bragging about it in the states largest, and conservative paper. <a href="http://www.jsonline.com/content/forum/primary.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.jsonline.com/content/forum/primary.asp</a></p>
<p>Sadly my vote for Hillary Clinton was negated by some Republican thug with no ethics or integrity that will then proudly cast a vote for McCain in November.</p>
<p>Our system of open and same day registration in Wisconsin is supposed to make voting easier for everyone. Trust the Republicans to play the system for their own benefit. May be legal, but for people that spout about their &#8220;values&#8221; it sure isn&#8217;t ethical or something done by people of integrity. Guess those things are of value to them like they are to me.</p>
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		<title>By: lambert strether</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/24/the-netroots-police/comment-page-1/#comment-6263</link>
		<dc:creator>lambert strether</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Generally, when people get really angry and use bullying tactics for not a whole lot of reason, I figure I&#039;ve struck a nerve. I imagine that, in this case, the nerve would have been this one:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Without reliable stats to show Obama’s support is from those who will for the Democrat in November, I’d say the best way to ensure Republicans stay out of our race and don’t steal another election from us is for Dems to vote for Hillary to be the nominee.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
But check this polling from Texas Pollsters &lt;a href=&quot;http://ivrpolls.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=36&amp;Itemid=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IVR&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Update - Analysis of the data has revealed a surprisingly large number of Democratic primary voters that would vote against the same candidate in the general that they voted for in the primary. Almost all are older white Bush voters, and they break heavily for Obama. Those that break for Clinton are mostly female, while the Obama voters are equally split on gender.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So, there&#039;s data out there, and there&#039;s also dots to connect in the form of the various &quot;Democrat for a Day&quot; campaign materials that we&#039;ve seen.

Personally, I think that if Republicans provide the margin of victory for any Democratic candidate in a Democratic candidate, that&#039;s bad. So Jeralyn&#039;s question was very relevant, and good for her for asking it. Maybe I&#039;ll get put on BooMan&#039;s enemies list next! What fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally, when people get really angry and use bullying tactics for not a whole lot of reason, I figure I&#8217;ve struck a nerve. I imagine that, in this case, the nerve would have been this one:</p>
<blockquote><p>Without reliable stats to show Obama’s support is from those who will for the Democrat in November, I’d say the best way to ensure Republicans stay out of our race and don’t steal another election from us is for Dems to vote for Hillary to be the nominee.</p></blockquote>
<p>But check this polling from Texas Pollsters <a href="http://ivrpolls.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=36&amp;Itemid=1" rel="nofollow">IVR</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Update &#8211; Analysis of the data has revealed a surprisingly large number of Democratic primary voters that would vote against the same candidate in the general that they voted for in the primary. Almost all are older white Bush voters, and they break heavily for Obama. Those that break for Clinton are mostly female, while the Obama voters are equally split on gender.
</p></blockquote>
<p>So, there&#8217;s data out there, and there&#8217;s also dots to connect in the form of the various &#8220;Democrat for a Day&#8221; campaign materials that we&#8217;ve seen.</p>
<p>Personally, I think that if Republicans provide the margin of victory for any Democratic candidate in a Democratic candidate, that&#8217;s bad. So Jeralyn&#8217;s question was very relevant, and good for her for asking it. Maybe I&#8217;ll get put on BooMan&#8217;s enemies list next! What fun!</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/24/the-netroots-police/comment-page-1/#comment-6233</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Stuart O&#039;Neill oneof Pamela&#039;s authors. I have a request for the many above who have done more specific homework and have specific information about Senator Obama. I&#039;ve been offline or you would have seen this post immediately.

I have done posts supporting Senator Clinton including the last one &lt;a href=&quot;http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/22/we-need-a-warrior/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;We Need A Warrior&#039;.
&lt;/a&gt;
What I haven&#039;t had personal time to do, with travel and work interfering, is to do an indepth analysis of the allegations I see against Obama.

 I know his campaign has systematically used passive-aggressive language and old school actions to grab the media spotlight. I see a true Media Candidate being marketed and branded, in the business-sense, as a commodity. I advocated such an approach for another person who never entered the race. The difference was that person had zero true dirty laundry in the background. I know the approach and many of the techniques, since I was working with a famomous Madison Ave expert, very well. And I recognize all of them.

I need references with specific links or citations to do an indepth piece for The Democratic Daily and others. I still post at DKos and get hammered but also see more supporters surface when the article is documented, unemotional and reasonably well-written.

&lt;strong&gt;Anyone with specific information or sources please &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:stuart@politicalinterviews.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;email me.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; I&#039;ll get the material together as soon as possible.

This is a man who, I sincerely believe, isn&#039;t qualified to be President Of the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Stuart O&#8217;Neill oneof Pamela&#8217;s authors. I have a request for the many above who have done more specific homework and have specific information about Senator Obama. I&#8217;ve been offline or you would have seen this post immediately.</p>
<p>I have done posts supporting Senator Clinton including the last one <a href="http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/22/we-need-a-warrior/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;We Need A Warrior&#8217;.<br />
</a><br />
What I haven&#8217;t had personal time to do, with travel and work interfering, is to do an indepth analysis of the allegations I see against Obama.</p>
<p> I know his campaign has systematically used passive-aggressive language and old school actions to grab the media spotlight. I see a true Media Candidate being marketed and branded, in the business-sense, as a commodity. I advocated such an approach for another person who never entered the race. The difference was that person had zero true dirty laundry in the background. I know the approach and many of the techniques, since I was working with a famomous Madison Ave expert, very well. And I recognize all of them.</p>
<p>I need references with specific links or citations to do an indepth piece for The Democratic Daily and others. I still post at DKos and get hammered but also see more supporters surface when the article is documented, unemotional and reasonably well-written.</p>
<p><strong>Anyone with specific information or sources please <a href="mailto:stuart@politicalinterviews.com" rel="nofollow">email me.</a></strong> I&#8217;ll get the material together as soon as possible.</p>
<p>This is a man who, I sincerely believe, isn&#8217;t qualified to be President Of the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: kenoshaMarge</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/02/24/the-netroots-police/comment-page-1/#comment-6224</link>
		<dc:creator>kenoshaMarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am another Newbie at this site. I came via Taylor Marsh and am happy that I did. 

By staying as far away as possible from former stomping grounds at kos, Americablog, Huffington, BuzzFlash and other all Obama all the time I was feeling a little lost.

Then I found NoQuarter, TalkLeft, Taylor Marsh and now here. I am once again happy to have found someplace I feel at home. In fact I&#039;ve found 4!  

And I consider myself lucky to have had the honor to have voted in the Wisconsin Primary for Hillary Rodham Clinton. I&#039;ve voted in every presidential primary beginning in 1968 and it was a thrill to actually be able to cast a vote for a terrific female candidate.

And for those that don&#039;t think there was any Dem/for/a/day voting going on, the Rightwing Blogs and Radio stations are BRAGGING about it. One Wisconsin country, that is so red it almost hurts your eyes voted overwhelmingly for Obama! Open registration like we have here may make it easier for people to vote, which was the intention, it also makes it easier for the integrity challenged to scam the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am another Newbie at this site. I came via Taylor Marsh and am happy that I did. </p>
<p>By staying as far away as possible from former stomping grounds at kos, Americablog, Huffington, BuzzFlash and other all Obama all the time I was feeling a little lost.</p>
<p>Then I found NoQuarter, TalkLeft, Taylor Marsh and now here. I am once again happy to have found someplace I feel at home. In fact I&#8217;ve found 4!  </p>
<p>And I consider myself lucky to have had the honor to have voted in the Wisconsin Primary for Hillary Rodham Clinton. I&#8217;ve voted in every presidential primary beginning in 1968 and it was a thrill to actually be able to cast a vote for a terrific female candidate.</p>
<p>And for those that don&#8217;t think there was any Dem/for/a/day voting going on, the Rightwing Blogs and Radio stations are BRAGGING about it. One Wisconsin country, that is so red it almost hurts your eyes voted overwhelmingly for Obama! Open registration like we have here may make it easier for people to vote, which was the intention, it also makes it easier for the integrity challenged to scam the system.</p>
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