Comments on: Obama’s Hollow “Judgment” and Empty Record http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/02/obamas-hollow-judgment-and-empty-record/ Political News, Progressive Commentary, Liberal Opinions and Common Sense Conversation... Thu, 24 May 2012 02:40:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Pamela Leavey http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/02/obamas-hollow-judgment-and-empty-record/comment-page-1/#comment-6575 Pamela Leavey Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:59:37 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/02/obamas-hollow-judgment-and-empty-record/#comment-6575 Buzz Point blank -- Obama's has NOT been consistent with his anti-war stance. Think Kerry - Feingold. Obama voted against it. Look, Barack Obama was a state Senator in 2002, he DID NOT vote in the U.S. on the war because he WAS NOT a U.S. Senator. My thoughts on all of this are the same as they were in '04 when Dean made similar claims that he didn't vote for the war but Kerry did. Quite frankly, I think some of us have a lot of valid questions about what Barack would do that he hasn't answered. Buzz

Point blank — Obama’s has NOT been consistent with his anti-war stance. Think Kerry – Feingold. Obama voted against it.

Look, Barack Obama was a state Senator in 2002, he DID NOT vote in the U.S. on the war because he WAS NOT a U.S. Senator.

My thoughts on all of this are the same as they were in ’04 when Dean made similar claims that he didn’t vote for the war but Kerry did.

Quite frankly, I think some of us have a lot of valid questions about what Barack would do that he hasn’t answered.

]]> By: William A. Stoddart http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/02/obamas-hollow-judgment-and-empty-record/comment-page-1/#comment-6573 William A. Stoddart Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:19:04 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/02/obamas-hollow-judgment-and-empty-record/#comment-6573 This makes about as much sense as the "What would Regan do" on the Hennity/Colmbs Show. The Right, of course, considers Regan as their Savior. To them Regan could almost walk on water. So, at least weekly they run this segment. It, of course, is all hypothetical, as Regan is no longer with us. However, you guessed it, if Regan was still president he (per Hennity) would have made all of the correct decisions in todays world. So now the Hillary supporters are playing "What would Barack have done" game. Hillary supporters encourage the players to think that he would have followed her lead, IF he had been in the senate. I feel that these "what if" games are weak political fodder. Voters are suppose to have the ability to look into some type of crystal ball and come up with their best guess. This is equally ridiculous with Regan as it is with Obama. The fact of the matter is that Barack was in the distinct miniority with most politicans back in 2002. His stance on the war has been consistent since 2002, while Hillary's has noticeably vacilated. It also should be noted that back in 2002 there were polticans at the national level that did doubt the validity of the bogus intelligence reports. A few were able to see through the Bush smoke screen. They knew that Bush had a vandetta against Sadam for the attempted assasination attempt on his father. They were suspicious by Bush's continued insistance that "God" was directing his decisions. Most importantly, some realized that Afganistan, with pilots trained in Afganistan and born is Sudan, was the country that had attacked us---NOT IRAQ. So, please don't believe that Obama was out there on a limb by himself in his opposition. We simply can't play the "what if" game. The fact of the matter is that Obama opposed the war from it's outset, and Hillary did not. Buzz This makes about as much sense as the “What would Regan do” on the Hennity/Colmbs Show. The Right, of course, considers Regan as their Savior. To them Regan could almost walk on water. So, at least weekly they run this segment. It, of course, is all hypothetical, as Regan is no longer with us. However, you guessed it, if Regan was still president he (per Hennity) would have made all of the correct decisions in todays world.
So now the Hillary supporters are playing “What would Barack have done” game. Hillary supporters encourage the players to think that he would have followed her lead, IF he had been in the senate. I feel that these “what if” games are weak political fodder. Voters are suppose to have the ability to look into some type of crystal ball and come up with their best guess.
This is equally ridiculous with Regan as it is with Obama. The fact of the matter is that Barack was in the distinct miniority with most politicans back in 2002. His stance on the war has been consistent since 2002, while Hillary’s has noticeably vacilated. It also should be noted that back in 2002 there were polticans at the national level that did doubt the validity of the bogus intelligence reports. A few were able to see through the Bush smoke screen. They knew that Bush had a vandetta against Sadam for the attempted assasination attempt on his father. They were suspicious by Bush’s continued insistance that “God” was directing his decisions. Most importantly, some realized that Afganistan, with pilots trained in Afganistan and born is Sudan, was the country that had attacked us—NOT IRAQ. So, please don’t believe that Obama was out there on a limb by himself in his opposition. We simply can’t play the “what if” game. The fact of the matter is that Obama opposed the war from it’s outset, and Hillary did not. Buzz

]]> By: bjerryberg http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/02/obamas-hollow-judgment-and-empty-record/comment-page-1/#comment-6565 bjerryberg Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:38:50 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/02/obamas-hollow-judgment-and-empty-record/#comment-6565 Joe Wilson is a good man and a skilled diplomat.. He knows why the right wing of the intell community/media has been so generous to Sen. Obama and why they won't be much longer. A vote for Obama is a vote at this point for some combination of the late John McCain and Wall Streeter Bloomberg--who resembles Cheney a great deal. It's all about the crash of the economy and who gets bailed out. The avalanche against Mr Hyde Park, Sen. Obama, has begun. For the good of the country Sen Clinton must stay in--regardless of media Psy-War and conventional wisdom http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4377680&page=2 http://www.newsweek.com/id/81812 http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FUNDRAISER_TRIAL?SITE=ILMOL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT http://www.newsweek.com/id/117851 Joe Wilson is a good man and a skilled diplomat.. He knows why the right wing of the intell community/media has been so generous to Sen. Obama and why they won’t be much longer.

A vote for Obama is a vote at this point for some combination of the late John McCain and Wall Streeter Bloomberg–who resembles Cheney a great deal. It’s all about the crash of the economy and who gets bailed out.

The avalanche against Mr Hyde Park, Sen. Obama, has begun. For the good of the country Sen Clinton must stay in–regardless of media Psy-War and conventional wisdom

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4377680&page=2

http://www.newsweek.com/id/81812

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FUNDRAISER_TRIAL?SITE=ILMOL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

http://www.newsweek.com/id/117851

]]> By: Darrell Prows http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/02/obamas-hollow-judgment-and-empty-record/comment-page-1/#comment-6555 Darrell Prows Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:03:28 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/02/obamas-hollow-judgment-and-empty-record/#comment-6555 I don't know, I actually didn't trust the stuff coming out of the Adminsitration at the time, but they were milking the combination of 9-11 and routine Respect For The Office for all they could get. It was close call, but I decided to bite my tongue, and I think that Collin Powell really was the deciding point for me. I don’t know, I actually didn’t trust the stuff coming out of the Adminsitration at the time, but they were milking the combination of 9-11 and routine Respect For The Office for all they could get. It was close call, but I decided to bite my tongue, and I think that Collin Powell really was the deciding point for me.

]]> By: alrudder http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/02/obamas-hollow-judgment-and-empty-record/comment-page-1/#comment-6549 alrudder Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:11:04 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/02/obamas-hollow-judgment-and-empty-record/#comment-6549 Obama may be saddled with Loony Left campaign supporters, but his policy shop is very serious and non-ideological. For anyone who cares to read an analysis, courtesy of <a href="http://tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=4d40a39e-8f57-4054-bd99-94bc9d19be1a" rel="nofollow">The New Republic</a>. Obama may be saddled with Loony Left campaign supporters, but his policy shop is very serious and non-ideological. For anyone who cares to read an analysis, courtesy of The New Republic.

]]> By: Pamela Leavey http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/02/obamas-hollow-judgment-and-empty-record/comment-page-1/#comment-6548 Pamela Leavey Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:09:40 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/02/obamas-hollow-judgment-and-empty-record/#comment-6548 Todd I would hope that everyone on th eanti-war left that is getting up in arms about Clinton supporters will chill out once the nominee is chosen. Todd

I would hope that everyone on th eanti-war left that is getting up in arms about Clinton supporters will chill out once the nominee is chosen.

]]> By: Todd Mitchell http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/02/obamas-hollow-judgment-and-empty-record/comment-page-1/#comment-6545 Todd Mitchell Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:52:25 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/02/obamas-hollow-judgment-and-empty-record/#comment-6545 I'm sure Wilson will go from vaunted, sainted status, to scourge of the loony, anti-war left crowd after that post. I’m sure Wilson will go from vaunted, sainted status, to scourge of the loony, anti-war left crowd after that post.

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