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		<title>By: Kendall A. Johnson</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/09/the-invisible-women/comment-page-2/#comment-7261</link>
		<dc:creator>Kendall A. Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janis, 

Keep pounding it!!! Your points are exactly right!! Obama doesn&#039;t have a clue about foreign policy. Hillary had to tell him the name of the new Russion president. 

Obama reaks of inexperience and as this contest continues, it is more and more clear that he just isn&#039;t ready for the job!!!! Now with this whole Paster Wright thing, on top of the fact that he can&#039;t carry a pivital state is a huge problem. He is clearly going to be a liability in the fall if he gets the nomination!!!! And what is wrong with Nancy Polosi!! She is doing everything she can to cut Hillary Clinton&#039;s throat, even if it costs the party the White House!!!!!! She really needs to be slapped down hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janis, </p>
<p>Keep pounding it!!! Your points are exactly right!! Obama doesn&#8217;t have a clue about foreign policy. Hillary had to tell him the name of the new Russion president. </p>
<p>Obama reaks of inexperience and as this contest continues, it is more and more clear that he just isn&#8217;t ready for the job!!!! Now with this whole Paster Wright thing, on top of the fact that he can&#8217;t carry a pivital state is a huge problem. He is clearly going to be a liability in the fall if he gets the nomination!!!! And what is wrong with Nancy Polosi!! She is doing everything she can to cut Hillary Clinton&#8217;s throat, even if it costs the party the White House!!!!!! She really needs to be slapped down hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/09/the-invisible-women/comment-page-2/#comment-7259</link>
		<dc:creator>Janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela, there&#039;s also the clear contradiction between crowing over Obama&#039;s willingness to talk to and with anyone (or at least that&#039;s how his supporters have spun it) followed up with the faux-tough-talk about how we can&#039;t let people into the new and improved international union if they don&#039;t &quot;act like grownups.&quot;

Neither he nor his supporters have thought this stuff through -- they are giong off the cuff, saying whatever they need to say at the moment.  I&#039;m not in the mood for that in a president.  I&#039;m just not willing to waste however much time it&#039;ll take to get this guy up to speed, to wait until he&#039;s had his backside handed to him a few times to learn what works.  I&#039;m not interesting in &lt;i&gt;raising&lt;/i&gt; my next president.

His supporters have spun it such that his lack of an Iraq war vote (when he wasn&#039;t even in the Senate at the time, and when he fell in line the minute he was) as the most significant distinguisher bwetween the two.  With that absurd myth exploded, there is &lt;i&gt;nothing else&lt;/i&gt; to the man.  There may be in time -- but I&#039;m not banking on a maybe.  When he had the chance to distinguish himself from Clinton, he didn&#039;t do so -- for all opportunities he had, he voted for that war &lt;i&gt;the exact same number of times she did&lt;/i&gt;.

So his supporters flip back and forth at random between &quot;let&#039;s all hold hands&quot; and &quot;shun the bastidz&quot; with no coherence at all -- because they haven&#039;t thought it through.  They haven&#039;t even considered it.  They are only now realizing that they have to do a little &quot;tough talk&quot; to get by with the image thing, so they are giving it a whirl to see how it comes out and how they can spin it.  *sigh*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela, there&#8217;s also the clear contradiction between crowing over Obama&#8217;s willingness to talk to and with anyone (or at least that&#8217;s how his supporters have spun it) followed up with the faux-tough-talk about how we can&#8217;t let people into the new and improved international union if they don&#8217;t &#8220;act like grownups.&#8221;</p>
<p>Neither he nor his supporters have thought this stuff through &#8212; they are giong off the cuff, saying whatever they need to say at the moment.  I&#8217;m not in the mood for that in a president.  I&#8217;m just not willing to waste however much time it&#8217;ll take to get this guy up to speed, to wait until he&#8217;s had his backside handed to him a few times to learn what works.  I&#8217;m not interesting in <i>raising</i> my next president.</p>
<p>His supporters have spun it such that his lack of an Iraq war vote (when he wasn&#8217;t even in the Senate at the time, and when he fell in line the minute he was) as the most significant distinguisher bwetween the two.  With that absurd myth exploded, there is <i>nothing else</i> to the man.  There may be in time &#8212; but I&#8217;m not banking on a maybe.  When he had the chance to distinguish himself from Clinton, he didn&#8217;t do so &#8212; for all opportunities he had, he voted for that war <i>the exact same number of times she did</i>.</p>
<p>So his supporters flip back and forth at random between &#8220;let&#8217;s all hold hands&#8221; and &#8220;shun the bastidz&#8221; with no coherence at all &#8212; because they haven&#8217;t thought it through.  They haven&#8217;t even considered it.  They are only now realizing that they have to do a little &#8220;tough talk&#8221; to get by with the image thing, so they are giving it a whirl to see how it comes out and how they can spin it.  *sigh*</p>
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		<title>By: Peace Out For Unity</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/09/the-invisible-women/comment-page-2/#comment-7244</link>
		<dc:creator>Peace Out For Unity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve only waited 144 years to get here and see a woman for president and that&#039;s exciting but so are her qualifications! Butter,Bing,butter boom!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve only waited 144 years to get here and see a woman for president and that&#8217;s exciting but so are her qualifications! Butter,Bing,butter boom!</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/09/the-invisible-women/comment-page-2/#comment-7241</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 06:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darrell

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;McCain and all foreign policy traditionalists (of which Sen. Clinton is trying to create the impression that she is one) only talk AT exactly the people that they should try talking TO, and Sen. Obama is indicating that he will try the other approach.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For all intents and purposes, what Obama indicated he will do is not anything to jump up and down over. Sure he said he will talk without preconditions, then he back tracked on that. And the truth is foreign policy and diplocacy go hand and hand. Obama&#039;s jump in approach is not anything to crow about and could get us in trouble. 

Clinton on the other hand does have a bit more experience, even just in the status of former First Lady in meeting with foreign leaders and diplomacy. 

If you haven&#039;t read this you might want to: Hillary Rodham Clinton -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20071101faessay86601/hillary-rodham-clinton/security-and-opportunity-for-the-twenty-first-century.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Security and Opportunity for the Twenty-first Century&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darrell</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;McCain and all foreign policy traditionalists (of which Sen. Clinton is trying to create the impression that she is one) only talk AT exactly the people that they should try talking TO, and Sen. Obama is indicating that he will try the other approach.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>For all intents and purposes, what Obama indicated he will do is not anything to jump up and down over. Sure he said he will talk without preconditions, then he back tracked on that. And the truth is foreign policy and diplocacy go hand and hand. Obama&#8217;s jump in approach is not anything to crow about and could get us in trouble. </p>
<p>Clinton on the other hand does have a bit more experience, even just in the status of former First Lady in meeting with foreign leaders and diplomacy. </p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t read this you might want to: Hillary Rodham Clinton &#8212; <a href="http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20071101faessay86601/hillary-rodham-clinton/security-and-opportunity-for-the-twenty-first-century.html" rel="nofollow">Security and Opportunity for the Twenty-first Century</a></p>
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		<title>By: Darrell Prows</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/09/the-invisible-women/comment-page-2/#comment-7233</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrell Prows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain and all foreign policy traditionalists (of which Sen. Clinton is trying to create the impression that she is one) only talk AT exactly the people that they should try talking TO, and Sen. Obama is indicating that he will try the other approach. In first developing my ideas I wrote extensively on this topic in 1983. In 2006 I produced a sort of a digested version, which follows:

Bush versus The Little Freak - Smack Down 

The asshole is obviously looking for attention when he caps off a nuke, because he is too interested in living for it to be anything else. While the whole idea of violent use of any of those weapons is too horrible to even contemplate, you can still predict that he is one of the people who would not survive his making that particular colossal mistake. Suicidal is one thing that the Korean goofball ain&#039;t.

And I would dearly love to see our President (any of them, not just the current occupant) say exactly that in an eyeball to eyeball conversation. I think that this sort of responsibility comes with the job, and that Bush needs to spend a whole lot more time out of his comfort zone.

The &quot;Pomp and Circumstance&quot; of Nixon going to China is all well and good, but we do ourselves no favor by allowing our Presidents to define the job in a way that includes their being able to avoid doing any truly heavy lifting. Sometimes a President can only serve us by calling one whack job or another out. Bush and Kim Jong Il getting it on alone together in some appropriately luxurious meeting room in one royal palace or another in Beijing could and should be arranged. And when they are finished with each other there should be no official statement of &quot;full and frank discussion&quot;. Bush could get on T.V. and say &quot;I told the jerk that he needs to start acting civilized&quot; and that he either said yes, or screw you, or whatever. And then the jerk could get a very sobering wake up call when he tried to get the same level of attention for his side of the story and finds out that no one is interested. Our President owes us that much, and it doesn&#039;t matter which one it is.

Why do these guys think that they are entitled to avoid all such unpleasant confrontations? What are we paying them for? Isn&#039;t it embarrassing to think that not one of them has ever had a sit down with Castro, for as many years as he has been considered to be a pain in our behinds? This whole President gig has always been at least part theatrics. Why do they seem so reluctant to stage difficult performances for the benefit of the nation? Take on Iran, Hugo Chavez, and any of the other trouble makers that we work so hard to shun making contact with. All the world truly could be a stage in the era of modern communications and we would be far more well served if we had a leader that was willing and adept at using this resource as a weapon of choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain and all foreign policy traditionalists (of which Sen. Clinton is trying to create the impression that she is one) only talk AT exactly the people that they should try talking TO, and Sen. Obama is indicating that he will try the other approach. In first developing my ideas I wrote extensively on this topic in 1983. In 2006 I produced a sort of a digested version, which follows:</p>
<p>Bush versus The Little Freak &#8211; Smack Down </p>
<p>The asshole is obviously looking for attention when he caps off a nuke, because he is too interested in living for it to be anything else. While the whole idea of violent use of any of those weapons is too horrible to even contemplate, you can still predict that he is one of the people who would not survive his making that particular colossal mistake. Suicidal is one thing that the Korean goofball ain&#8217;t.</p>
<p>And I would dearly love to see our President (any of them, not just the current occupant) say exactly that in an eyeball to eyeball conversation. I think that this sort of responsibility comes with the job, and that Bush needs to spend a whole lot more time out of his comfort zone.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Pomp and Circumstance&#8221; of Nixon going to China is all well and good, but we do ourselves no favor by allowing our Presidents to define the job in a way that includes their being able to avoid doing any truly heavy lifting. Sometimes a President can only serve us by calling one whack job or another out. Bush and Kim Jong Il getting it on alone together in some appropriately luxurious meeting room in one royal palace or another in Beijing could and should be arranged. And when they are finished with each other there should be no official statement of &#8220;full and frank discussion&#8221;. Bush could get on T.V. and say &#8220;I told the jerk that he needs to start acting civilized&#8221; and that he either said yes, or screw you, or whatever. And then the jerk could get a very sobering wake up call when he tried to get the same level of attention for his side of the story and finds out that no one is interested. Our President owes us that much, and it doesn&#8217;t matter which one it is.</p>
<p>Why do these guys think that they are entitled to avoid all such unpleasant confrontations? What are we paying them for? Isn&#8217;t it embarrassing to think that not one of them has ever had a sit down with Castro, for as many years as he has been considered to be a pain in our behinds? This whole President gig has always been at least part theatrics. Why do they seem so reluctant to stage difficult performances for the benefit of the nation? Take on Iran, Hugo Chavez, and any of the other trouble makers that we work so hard to shun making contact with. All the world truly could be a stage in the era of modern communications and we would be far more well served if we had a leader that was willing and adept at using this resource as a weapon of choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/09/the-invisible-women/comment-page-2/#comment-7229</link>
		<dc:creator>Janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...we need a U.S. President with the guts to tell these other people to their faces why it is that they don’t qualify to be treated like adults.&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe you should vote for McCain instead.  This is the same horseshit rhetoric I&#039;ve heard from every warmongering right-winger since the dawn of time, child.

Or are you just trying to prove that despite backing a supposedly &quot;anti-war&quot; candidate -- who is no such thing, as I&#039;ve shown -- you can talk tough with the rest of them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;we need a U.S. President with the guts to tell these other people to their faces why it is that they don’t qualify to be treated like adults.</i></p>
<p>Maybe you should vote for McCain instead.  This is the same horseshit rhetoric I&#8217;ve heard from every warmongering right-winger since the dawn of time, child.</p>
<p>Or are you just trying to prove that despite backing a supposedly &#8220;anti-war&#8221; candidate &#8212; who is no such thing, as I&#8217;ve shown &#8212; you can talk tough with the rest of them?</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell Prows</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/09/the-invisible-women/comment-page-1/#comment-7223</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrell Prows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, the U.N. has to be replaced, and we need a new body that doesn&#039;t allow membership by anybody but modern democracies. Then we need a U.S. President with the guts to tell these other people to their faces why it is that they don&#039;t qualify to be treated like adults. The caliber of conservation that needs to happen can&#039;t be conducted by anyone below the top job.

We don&#039;t have alot of time to slap this planet into order. We either all start coming together fairly quickly (no more than 30 years, I believe), or we all start to sink seperately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the U.N. has to be replaced, and we need a new body that doesn&#8217;t allow membership by anybody but modern democracies. Then we need a U.S. President with the guts to tell these other people to their faces why it is that they don&#8217;t qualify to be treated like adults. The caliber of conservation that needs to happen can&#8217;t be conducted by anyone below the top job.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have alot of time to slap this planet into order. We either all start coming together fairly quickly (no more than 30 years, I believe), or we all start to sink seperately.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/09/the-invisible-women/comment-page-1/#comment-7219</link>
		<dc:creator>Janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There are a lot of countries that are angry at us right now and Obama’s nievity to think that just because Bush is gone that these same countries are ready to kiss and makeup, shows that he is not aware of the dangers such an approach poses.&lt;/i&gt;

There&#039;s also the issue that this whole idea that we can just schizophrenically shift leaders and suddenly everything&#039;s all better just ticks me off.  That&#039;s one of the big problems Europe in general has with the US -- we say one thing and six months later, it&#039;s all wiped clean.  That was a big part of why they were pissed about how easily we ignored the Kyoto protocol.  We SIGNED the damned thing, and suddenly we just do a 180 and decide not to simply because someone else is in charge?  It&#039;s obscene.

The US is like the abusive husband who beats the snot out of you when drunk, and then he sobers up and hands you flowers and expects total absolution.  Bite me -- we need to WORK for absolution, and even then we don&#039;t really deserve it. I want someone who&#039;s prepared to EARN the trust of the world we so thoroughly fucked over.  The idea that we can just switch the guy in charge and suddenly expect everyone to lurve us again is disgusting.

This despite the fact that I used an obviously girl-flavored metaphor and thus my entire argument can be safely completely dismissed as a mere figment of &quot;identity politics.&quot;  (Anti-HRC types aren&#039;t quite as subtle as they like to think they are.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There are a lot of countries that are angry at us right now and Obama’s nievity to think that just because Bush is gone that these same countries are ready to kiss and makeup, shows that he is not aware of the dangers such an approach poses.</i></p>
<p>There&#8217;s also the issue that this whole idea that we can just schizophrenically shift leaders and suddenly everything&#8217;s all better just ticks me off.  That&#8217;s one of the big problems Europe in general has with the US &#8212; we say one thing and six months later, it&#8217;s all wiped clean.  That was a big part of why they were pissed about how easily we ignored the Kyoto protocol.  We SIGNED the damned thing, and suddenly we just do a 180 and decide not to simply because someone else is in charge?  It&#8217;s obscene.</p>
<p>The US is like the abusive husband who beats the snot out of you when drunk, and then he sobers up and hands you flowers and expects total absolution.  Bite me &#8212; we need to WORK for absolution, and even then we don&#8217;t really deserve it. I want someone who&#8217;s prepared to EARN the trust of the world we so thoroughly fucked over.  The idea that we can just switch the guy in charge and suddenly expect everyone to lurve us again is disgusting.</p>
<p>This despite the fact that I used an obviously girl-flavored metaphor and thus my entire argument can be safely completely dismissed as a mere figment of &#8220;identity politics.&#8221;  (Anti-HRC types aren&#8217;t quite as subtle as they like to think they are.)</p>
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		<title>By: Kendall A. Johnson</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/03/09/the-invisible-women/comment-page-1/#comment-7217</link>
		<dc:creator>Kendall A. Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, 

I know what you mean about hoping that its not too late!!! Florida and Michigan have to be resolved!! If they re-do those states Hillary can win. If they don&#039;t, here goes another stolen election!!!!! If they fuck this up see how many of these assholes will be fired in the fall. 

Nancy Polosi and Howard Dean really need to focus on who is electable and in order to do that they need to re-due Michigan and Florida so a fair result can be obtained. If they disenfranchise Florida again, we might as will kiss it good  bye in the fall!!! Those people down there have been screwed enough!!! And they are always teeter taughtering anyway. We need to turn it Blue and with Hillary there is a better chance than with Obama. Those Seniors down there from the North East are not going to vote for Obama rather than McCain!!! Hillary at least offers them a reasonable alternative!!!!

I hope these superdelegates are paying close attention to the dirt coming out of the Obama camp that the Obama news media is having trouble containing. Youtube, it&#039;s a wonderful thing!!!!!!  Without youtube we might not have heard about Pastor Wright until the general election!!!!!!!

And Ohio, please!! Hillary picked picked up 66% of the white female vote there and is poised to pick up at least that much in Pennsylvania next month,. I&#039;m sure that if Hillary is not the nominee half these gals won&#039;t even come to the polls in November. 

I can just see it, a Duckakus type humiliation!!!!! The world will be watching in bewilderment!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, </p>
<p>I know what you mean about hoping that its not too late!!! Florida and Michigan have to be resolved!! If they re-do those states Hillary can win. If they don&#8217;t, here goes another stolen election!!!!! If they fuck this up see how many of these assholes will be fired in the fall. </p>
<p>Nancy Polosi and Howard Dean really need to focus on who is electable and in order to do that they need to re-due Michigan and Florida so a fair result can be obtained. If they disenfranchise Florida again, we might as will kiss it good  bye in the fall!!! Those people down there have been screwed enough!!! And they are always teeter taughtering anyway. We need to turn it Blue and with Hillary there is a better chance than with Obama. Those Seniors down there from the North East are not going to vote for Obama rather than McCain!!! Hillary at least offers them a reasonable alternative!!!!</p>
<p>I hope these superdelegates are paying close attention to the dirt coming out of the Obama camp that the Obama news media is having trouble containing. Youtube, it&#8217;s a wonderful thing!!!!!!  Without youtube we might not have heard about Pastor Wright until the general election!!!!!!!</p>
<p>And Ohio, please!! Hillary picked picked up 66% of the white female vote there and is poised to pick up at least that much in Pennsylvania next month,. I&#8217;m sure that if Hillary is not the nominee half these gals won&#8217;t even come to the polls in November. </p>
<p>I can just see it, a Duckakus type humiliation!!!!! The world will be watching in bewilderment!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kendall A. Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kendall A. Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darrell, 

That willingness to charge in without preconditions shows Obama&#039;s inexperience in foreign policy! There are a lot of countries that are angry at us right now and Obama&#039;s nievity to think that just because Bush is gone that these same countries are ready to kiss and makeup, shows that he is not aware of the dangers such an approach poses.

Obama still has a lot to learn!  

Hillary will practice deplomacy, but she will first re-build connections with our allies who can help us work more efficiently toward  diplomatically resolving our probloms with our enimees. She&#039;s definately the right person for the job. And don&#039;t think having Bill hanging around isn&#039;t a big bonis for the country. He is loved abroad and could help Hillary expedate  this process so the we can move our country forward and get past the horrable Bush administration!!!!.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darrell, </p>
<p>That willingness to charge in without preconditions shows Obama&#8217;s inexperience in foreign policy! There are a lot of countries that are angry at us right now and Obama&#8217;s nievity to think that just because Bush is gone that these same countries are ready to kiss and makeup, shows that he is not aware of the dangers such an approach poses.</p>
<p>Obama still has a lot to learn!  </p>
<p>Hillary will practice deplomacy, but she will first re-build connections with our allies who can help us work more efficiently toward  diplomatically resolving our probloms with our enimees. She&#8217;s definately the right person for the job. And don&#8217;t think having Bill hanging around isn&#8217;t a big bonis for the country. He is loved abroad and could help Hillary expedate  this process so the we can move our country forward and get past the horrable Bush administration!!!!.</p>
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