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	<title>Comments on: Obama and Wright, and the Donkey in the Living Room</title>
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		<title>By: Eakarach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eakarach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would anybody vote for Obama anyway? let me remind some of u who is his friend were. Tony Resko,Al Shaprton,Jesse Jackson,Louise Farrakhan and Rev.Wright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would anybody vote for Obama anyway? let me remind some of u who is his friend were. Tony Resko,Al Shaprton,Jesse Jackson,Louise Farrakhan and Rev.Wright.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Elayne Dees</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane Elayne Dees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 02:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;But if sexism is so ugly and pervasive (which I believe it is) do you think she can or should continue to avoid the issue should she become president?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Absolutely not. I should hope it would be part of her agenda to do something about it--anything&lt;/p&gt;
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<blockquote><p>But if sexism is so ugly and pervasive (which I believe it is) do you think she can or should continue to avoid the issue should she become president?</p></blockquote>
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<p>Absolutely not. I should hope it would be part of her agenda to do something about it&#8211;anything</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 02:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diane: I agree that it would not be an easy thing for Hillary to do for some, but not all, of the reasons you suggest. But if sexism is so ugly and pervasive (which I believe it is) do you think she can or should continue to avoid the issue should she become  president? By then any real/perceived disadvantage to her campaign has passed.  If she doesn&#039;t step up to talk about it then, who will?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diane: I agree that it would not be an easy thing for Hillary to do for some, but not all, of the reasons you suggest. But if sexism is so ugly and pervasive (which I believe it is) do you think she can or should continue to avoid the issue should she become  president? By then any real/perceived disadvantage to her campaign has passed.  If she doesn&#8217;t step up to talk about it then, who will?</p>
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		<title>By: Janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I&#039;ll bet my retirement savings that Obama has never -- as I have -- been called a whore, a cunt, a slut, a sperm receptable, a carpet-muncher (that one was rather fun), a goddamned dyke, a fat-ass ugly dyke bitch, somebody who needs to get a love of sex raped into me, or any of a variety of other charming things that this world has been throwing at people who wear my genitals since time immemorial.

Not that Wright&#039;d care.  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;normal&lt;/i&gt;.  That&#039;s the normal and healthy workings of God&#039;s creation for women to be subjeted to sick, revolting, threatening sex-based hate speech.

Hey, here&#039;s an idea -- how about we GET RID OF ALL HATE SPEECH instead of belittling any one kind?  Wanna give that one a go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;ll bet my retirement savings that Obama has never &#8212; as I have &#8212; been called a whore, a cunt, a slut, a sperm receptable, a carpet-muncher (that one was rather fun), a goddamned dyke, a fat-ass ugly dyke bitch, somebody who needs to get a love of sex raped into me, or any of a variety of other charming things that this world has been throwing at people who wear my genitals since time immemorial.</p>
<p>Not that Wright&#8217;d care.  That&#8217;s <i>normal</i>.  That&#8217;s the normal and healthy workings of God&#8217;s creation for women to be subjeted to sick, revolting, threatening sex-based hate speech.</p>
<p>Hey, here&#8217;s an idea &#8212; how about we GET RID OF ALL HATE SPEECH instead of belittling any one kind?  Wanna give that one a go?</p>
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		<title>By: hummingbirdv</title>
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		<dc:creator>hummingbirdv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diane,

thank you.  I immediately had red flags go up when I heard the comment by Wright about  &quot;never been called a  N_ _ _ _ _ .&quot;  So glad someone else noticed as well.

All of this hatred for women that is not talked about or even noticed by most, or excused by the rest, is disheartening and alarming.   I have not heard of a single instance where people at the back of a BO town hall yelled out &quot;Hey, Boy, come shine our shoes, &quot;  Or how about this one....
&quot;How do we beat the  Nig_ _ _ .&quot;   It would be so offensive, as it rightly should be, and WOULD NOT BE TOLERATED.

Yet, it is OK to treat Hill this way (and by proxy all women).  Just saw an ad on one of the blog sites that was selling toilet paper with Hill&#039;s face on each sheet.  Well, as Dolores Huerta said in an interview (she  co-founded the United Farm Workers with Cesar Chavez)  in Calif. right before primary there, &quot;I&#039;m voting for Hillary because no matter the color, it&#039;s still the old boy&#039;s club&quot;

You said it Dolores.

Thanks again Diane.  Let&#039;s see many more brave souls there are out there who are willing to notice what is going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diane,</p>
<p>thank you.  I immediately had red flags go up when I heard the comment by Wright about  &#8220;never been called a  N_ _ _ _ _ .&#8221;  So glad someone else noticed as well.</p>
<p>All of this hatred for women that is not talked about or even noticed by most, or excused by the rest, is disheartening and alarming.   I have not heard of a single instance where people at the back of a BO town hall yelled out &#8220;Hey, Boy, come shine our shoes, &#8221;  Or how about this one&#8230;.<br />
&#8220;How do we beat the  Nig_ _ _ .&#8221;   It would be so offensive, as it rightly should be, and WOULD NOT BE TOLERATED.</p>
<p>Yet, it is OK to treat Hill this way (and by proxy all women).  Just saw an ad on one of the blog sites that was selling toilet paper with Hill&#8217;s face on each sheet.  Well, as Dolores Huerta said in an interview (she  co-founded the United Farm Workers with Cesar Chavez)  in Calif. right before primary there, &#8220;I&#8217;m voting for Hillary because no matter the color, it&#8217;s still the old boy&#8217;s club&#8221;</p>
<p>You said it Dolores.</p>
<p>Thanks again Diane.  Let&#8217;s see many more brave souls there are out there who are willing to notice what is going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Elayne Dees</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane Elayne Dees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jessica, I&#039;m sure that the Clinton campaign has made a decision for Hillary to stay quiet because anything she says will &quot;prove&quot; that she is a &quot;self-made victim,&quot; as all feminists are now being called. The rules of this campaign (and any American debate, for that matter): Complain about racism, and some will call you a whining victim, but liberals will call you justified; complain about sexism and misogyny, and &lt;em&gt;everyone&lt;/em&gt; will call you a whining victim.

All the same, if she had attacked the matter early, and made it clear that every vile, misogynistic insult toward her is a vile insult toward all women and girls, she might have had something. But she didn&#039;t, and I understand why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessica, I&#8217;m sure that the Clinton campaign has made a decision for Hillary to stay quiet because anything she says will &#8220;prove&#8221; that she is a &#8220;self-made victim,&#8221; as all feminists are now being called. The rules of this campaign (and any American debate, for that matter): Complain about racism, and some will call you a whining victim, but liberals will call you justified; complain about sexism and misogyny, and <em>everyone</em> will call you a whining victim.</p>
<p>All the same, if she had attacked the matter early, and made it clear that every vile, misogynistic insult toward her is a vile insult toward all women and girls, she might have had something. But she didn&#8217;t, and I understand why.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Hillary should address the issue of sexism more directly in her speeches to bring the issue out in the open.  I don&#039;t know that Barack Obama could speak as persuasively on the issue as Hillary could and I think he would be attacked as being patronizing even if he tried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Hillary should address the issue of sexism more directly in her speeches to bring the issue out in the open.  I don&#8217;t know that Barack Obama could speak as persuasively on the issue as Hillary could and I think he would be attacked as being patronizing even if he tried.</p>
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		<title>By: Hilary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hilary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diane -- You have echoed so many of my thoughts EXACTLY.  I think Barack Obama long ago should have said -- &quot;hey I haven&#039;t been through anything compared to what she has had to put up with.&quot;  That would have led to an honest discussion about gender.  He seems very determined to have honest discussions about race.  But then, that is a much more convenient dialogue for him.  NO ONE would dispute that what she has had flung at her has been so much harsher than anything he&#039;s been subjected to.  And yet she&#039;s still there.  Why?  Foolish woman that she is, she must really feel she has something to offer this country.  You really find out just how sick many people are when you consider the things they come up with to smear her.  

I agree completely with your take on Rev. Wright as well.   Of course she hasn&#039;t been called that.  She&#039;s a white woman.  I guess he&#039;s holding that against her.   It is frightening to consider the vitriol that is directed against women in America and even more frightening to contemplate how many women don&#039;t seem to mind or even notice.  I remember my  &quot;h-ha&quot; moment very clearly.   Thanks so much for a great commentary. I appreciate your insight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diane &#8212; You have echoed so many of my thoughts EXACTLY.  I think Barack Obama long ago should have said &#8212; &#8220;hey I haven&#8217;t been through anything compared to what she has had to put up with.&#8221;  That would have led to an honest discussion about gender.  He seems very determined to have honest discussions about race.  But then, that is a much more convenient dialogue for him.  NO ONE would dispute that what she has had flung at her has been so much harsher than anything he&#8217;s been subjected to.  And yet she&#8217;s still there.  Why?  Foolish woman that she is, she must really feel she has something to offer this country.  You really find out just how sick many people are when you consider the things they come up with to smear her.  </p>
<p>I agree completely with your take on Rev. Wright as well.   Of course she hasn&#8217;t been called that.  She&#8217;s a white woman.  I guess he&#8217;s holding that against her.   It is frightening to consider the vitriol that is directed against women in America and even more frightening to contemplate how many women don&#8217;t seem to mind or even notice.  I remember my  &#8220;h-ha&#8221; moment very clearly.   Thanks so much for a great commentary. I appreciate your insight.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Diane and All:  Diane, thank you for keeping the spotlight on sexism in the United States and how it IS more acceptable than racism at this time.  It is truly unfortunate, and just like racism&#039;s ongoing demise, sexism&#039;s progressive demise will come from keeping the spotlight on it.  

However, unfortunately, sexism is so completely supported by commerical enterprises (marketing of products, etc.) that it is far more embedded in our society than racism.  I am not aware of any successful marketing schemes that utilize objectification of black people to sell a product or racism being used to sell a product.  Tell me if I am wrong on that.  

In my writings, I have been calling for Senator Obama to denounce sexism as strongly as he denounces racism.  So far, he has had many opportunities to do so, but has steered clear of it.  Why?  Until I am told otherwise, I can only conclude that his disciplined silence on sexism is due to a clear-cut decision to NOT mention such things since it might &quot;elevate&quot; his opponent (Senator Clinton).  I see it as a pure political calculation which, if it is (I assume it is until told otherwise), is a huge red-flag regarding Obama&#039;s integrity.  

With respect to the links that you provided to CafePress.com&#039;s t-shirts displaying sexist and misogynist trash, you picked some of the tamer ones.  If you want to get a better picture of what is out there (way before the general elections, by the way), check this link &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://conservativebuys.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop/scaryhillary&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;I&gt;Anti-Hillary 1 at ConservativeBuys.com, a site supported by CafePress.com&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and then compare it to how &quot;tame&quot; the anti-Obama products are at the same website -- &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://conservativebuys.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop/antiobama&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;I&gt;Anti-Obama at ConservativeBuys.com, a site supported by CafePress.com&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

Prima facie evidence of how much more acceptable sexism is in our society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Diane and All:  Diane, thank you for keeping the spotlight on sexism in the United States and how it IS more acceptable than racism at this time.  It is truly unfortunate, and just like racism&#8217;s ongoing demise, sexism&#8217;s progressive demise will come from keeping the spotlight on it.  </p>
<p>However, unfortunately, sexism is so completely supported by commerical enterprises (marketing of products, etc.) that it is far more embedded in our society than racism.  I am not aware of any successful marketing schemes that utilize objectification of black people to sell a product or racism being used to sell a product.  Tell me if I am wrong on that.  </p>
<p>In my writings, I have been calling for Senator Obama to denounce sexism as strongly as he denounces racism.  So far, he has had many opportunities to do so, but has steered clear of it.  Why?  Until I am told otherwise, I can only conclude that his disciplined silence on sexism is due to a clear-cut decision to NOT mention such things since it might &#8220;elevate&#8221; his opponent (Senator Clinton).  I see it as a pure political calculation which, if it is (I assume it is until told otherwise), is a huge red-flag regarding Obama&#8217;s integrity.  </p>
<p>With respect to the links that you provided to CafePress.com&#8217;s t-shirts displaying sexist and misogynist trash, you picked some of the tamer ones.  If you want to get a better picture of what is out there (way before the general elections, by the way), check this link <a HREF="http://conservativebuys.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop/scaryhillary" rel="nofollow"><i>Anti-Hillary 1 at ConservativeBuys.com, a site supported by CafePress.com</i></a> and then compare it to how &#8220;tame&#8221; the anti-Obama products are at the same website &#8212; <a HREF="http://conservativebuys.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop/antiobama" rel="nofollow"><i>Anti-Obama at ConservativeBuys.com, a site supported by CafePress.com</i></a>.</p>
<p>Prima facie evidence of how much more acceptable sexism is in our society.</p>
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		<title>By: JoAnne Tybinka Blasko</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoAnne Tybinka Blasko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diane;  Thank you for this post. It is accurate and important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diane;  Thank you for this post. It is accurate and important.</p>
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