Comments on: Why Hillary Clinton Should Be Winning

By: Pamela Leavey

Pamela Leavey — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:31:43 +0000

coldH2Owi

LOL! We agree on something:

“There was/is nothing wrong, Janis, with VP Mondale, Gov. Dukakis, Al Gore, or John Kerry.”

Considering they were up against the Republican Money Machine and Noise Machine, each of those candidates ran damn fine races. Of course it’s well known around here I am still very partial to John Kerry, and truth is, I was living in MA when Dukasis was Governor – I have a lot of respect for him as well.

Frankly I think the best way to show support for Clinton is to highlight what she’s doing as a candidate, educate people on her record as opposed to constantly repeating the same anti-Obama talking points. And likewise the same thing goes for Obama supporters — instead of picking apart Clinton they should be educating people on Obama’s record.

By: coldH2Owi

coldH2Owi — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:04:00 +0000

John Kerry. Sorry Ms. Leavey. I think I actually spelled it correctly, then changed it. I need a vacay.

By: Peace Out For Unity

Peace Out For Unity — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:57:37 +0000

Ya gotta say no to the rest,so you can say yes to the best ! Let’s end the mandates of NCLB ! Go Win Clinton !!

By: coldH2Owi

coldH2Owi — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:23:29 +0000

This system was put in place because the cigar smokers in the back room sent us the candidate. This system made sure all the various groups within the Party were represented. The Party bigwigs made Hubert Humphrey repudiate everything he stood for through his political life. That was 1968. They then abandoned the Party from then on, until Pres. Clinton came along & they felt OK about him. There was/is nothing wrong, Janis, with VP Mondale, Gov. Dukakis, Al Gore, or John Kerry. What they did wrong was to underestimate the evil within the wallets of the ReThugs. They also believed that good will win over evil, without much of a fight. I wish you, Janis, would quit making fun of, making light of those candidates in the past. They did the best they cold while battling not only the ReThug candidate, but the press as well. Another week & Dukakis would have won. Al Gore did win. & I also believe John Carey won as well. There are reasons we don’t want to act like the other party, good reasons. One of them is a proportional setup, so that no one is left out.

By: Janis

Janis — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:34:24 +0000

Jessica it’s not just a matter of “well she didn’t so she can’t and he did so he will” or whatever.

for me, I’m not just talking about this one election; I’m talking about the larger structure of a system that chooses one party’s candidate differently than the other, where only one of the playbooks matches up with the one used in the general election.

In light of that, wondering whether or not this proportional business is a very good idea is a reasonable thing to be asking, especially since it does seem to have coincided with the Dems running people who consistently get their asses handed to them in the GE.

By: Jessica

Jessica — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:08:20 +0000

If democrats didn’t use the proportional system then, yes, Hillary would be winning. But we don’t, so she’s not. It’s a good idea to question the wisdom of previous decisions and talk about making changes. It is also worth remembering that all the candidates knew all the rules before this thing started. Hillary knew about the proportional system but clearly did not think it was necessary to factor that into her campaign. She also did not organize caucus states because she didn’t think she had to. Had Hillary attended to these rules, however convoluted, she might very well be winning under the current rules and there would be a deafening silence about the need to exorcise the demons from the democratic party.

By: Janis

Janis — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:31:05 +0000

Interesting — so this dates back to 1968. That makes perfect sense in the context of the comment I made previously on this topic. The Dems began leaking helium like a day-old balloon almost at the exact moment this system was put into place.

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