Comments on: Is ‘The Finger’ The Nail In Obama’s Coffin? http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/ Political News, Progressive Commentary, Liberal Opinions and Common Sense Conversation... Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:14:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Pamela Leavey http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/comment-page-1/#comment-9483 Pamela Leavey Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:36:56 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/#comment-9483 And Buzz... Frankly Ithink it sucks that the media treats both of them badly - but it's part of getting vetted. The media should ask tough and unpleasent questions so we the voters know who our candidates are. And Buzz…

Frankly Ithink it sucks that the media treats both of them badly – but it’s part of getting vetted. The media should ask tough and unpleasent questions so we the voters know who our candidates are.

]]> By: Pamela Leavey http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/comment-page-1/#comment-9482 Pamela Leavey Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:35:06 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/#comment-9482 <p>Buzz</p> <p>Breifly... because I need to call it a night... What Obama fared was not unlike the earlier debate wen the moderators and Obama and Edwards all went after Hillary. Remember that one? I think people need to understand that they will not be easy on him come the general election. That is not aid and comfort. I remember full well what the media put Kerry through in the general election and Hillary Clinton has received far worse treatment over themonths from the media than Barack Obama did in ONE debate.</p> Buzz

Breifly… because I need to call it a night… What Obama fared was not unlike the earlier debate wen the moderators and Obama and Edwards all went after Hillary. Remember that one? I think people need to understand that they will not be easy on him come the general election. That is not aid and comfort. I remember full well what the media put Kerry through in the general election and Hillary Clinton has received far worse treatment over themonths from the media than Barack Obama did in ONE debate.

]]> By: Kendall Johnson http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/comment-page-1/#comment-9481 Kendall Johnson Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:05:17 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/#comment-9481 Obma will lose the general election because the media will stop protacting him. The republican money he has been receiving will stop and will start going to McCain. Then Fox, CBS, ABC, NBC and MSNBC will start in with the Bill Ayres, Rezko, Reverand Wright, Farrahkan, his elitst contempt for the working class (whites), etc......... The media will break him as quick as they made him. They will turn him into an anti-american terrorist sponsering thug. They will weave these elements in a way that will make people distrustful and fearful of him, and unwilling to give him control over our foreign policy. Put this together wth his thin resume, and people will be running away from him in droves. The point is that John McCain won't have to do much to sell himself, since he'll be the only alternative. The public will be afraid to vote for Obama by the time the republicans and the media are done with him. So they will vote for McCain, because they will feel like they don't have a choice. Obma will lose the general election because the media will stop protacting him. The republican money he has been receiving will stop and will start going to McCain. Then Fox, CBS, ABC, NBC and MSNBC will start in with the Bill Ayres, Rezko, Reverand Wright, Farrahkan, his elitst contempt for the working class (whites), etc………

The media will break him as quick as they made him. They will turn him into an anti-american terrorist sponsering thug. They will weave these elements in a way that will make people distrustful and fearful of him, and unwilling to give him control over our foreign policy. Put this together wth his thin resume, and people will be running away from him in droves.

The point is that John McCain won’t have to do much to sell himself, since he’ll be the only alternative. The public will be afraid to vote for Obama by the time the republicans and the media are done with him. So they will vote for McCain, because they will feel like they don’t have a choice.

]]> By: William A. Stoddart http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/comment-page-1/#comment-9480 William A. Stoddart Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:03:19 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/#comment-9480 Pamela, I don't believe that "I saw something that others didn't see in that debate." If viewers were not comatose, this is what they should have seen. Barack was proded by George S. to engage Senator Clinton on these "non-issues". They goaded him by asking him how he felt about Hillary's Bosnia "mis-speak". Their efforts were not successful. What he did accurately say was that both he and Senator Clinton were human beings, and therefore not infaliable. He pointed out that both he and Hillary have been taped and on video almost constantly over this saga of a campaign. Every word and jesture is annalyized for a secret hidden meaning. When fatigue sets in, mistakes and/or mis-speaks are bound to happen. Therefore, he refused to respond to the Bosnia snipper fire issue.(the high ground) He was further goaded by the interviewer's observation that his "campaign staff had responded" He admitted that they had BUT that he chose NOT to respond. I know that I am not hallucinating. As Hillary thru one punch after another, his facial expression was one somewhere between disgust and disbelief. The questioners did all in their power to turn the first half on the debate into something resembeling a cheap newstand tabloid but Obama wisely choose NOT to take the bate. Why should he have to respond again, again, and again to the Rev. Wright incident when he already addressed it? The man took a political risk and delivered his Philadelphia race relations speech, which some are saying was the greatest and the most honest apppraisal put forth on race in decades. After Senator Obama made the 'bitter" gaff in San Francisco the other day, he came out the very next day and admitted that he had "mangled" what he had been attempting to convey. Then he went on to clarify his message. After almost a full eight years of mistakes by "The Decider" (more like lies), do our two candidates have to be eligible for sainthood or be declared infallabale (ala the Pope) before there considered viable for the job? I personally have been disappointed with all of the debates, not because of the candidates but because of the format and questions. We really need to return them to the more profeesional over-sight of The League of Women Voters. The audiance SHOULD NOT be allowed to clap, boo, or hiss during the debate. The entire atmosphere is now like a re-run of World Fed.Wrestling. Lastly, I would like to make an observation which I hope is not considered out of line. I was previously crticized by you,Pamlela, for making some anti-Hillary statements which you advised that I should refrane from making. I believe you said that my negative Hillary comments did our party no good and could easily be used by the GOP nominee in the general election against us. So, please advise why you think that, "Get use to seeing him flounder on the debate stage because John McCain will eat him alive---Obama doesn't have the stuff to stand up to him" represents? If this is not giving aid and comfort to the enemy, I don't know what is!! Buzz Pamela, I don’t believe that “I saw something that others didn’t see in that debate.” If viewers were not comatose, this is what they should have seen.
Barack was proded by George S. to engage Senator Clinton on these “non-issues”. They goaded him by asking him how he felt about Hillary’s Bosnia “mis-speak”. Their efforts were not successful. What he did accurately say was that both he and Senator Clinton were human beings, and therefore not infaliable. He pointed out that both he and Hillary have been taped and on video almost constantly over this saga of a campaign. Every word and jesture is annalyized for a secret hidden meaning. When fatigue sets in, mistakes and/or mis-speaks are bound to happen. Therefore, he refused to respond to the Bosnia snipper fire issue.(the high ground) He was further goaded by the interviewer’s observation that his “campaign staff had responded” He admitted that they had BUT that he chose NOT to respond. I know that I am not hallucinating. As Hillary thru one punch after another, his facial expression was one somewhere between disgust and disbelief. The questioners did all in their power to turn the first half on the debate into something resembeling a cheap newstand tabloid but Obama wisely choose NOT to take the bate. Why should he have to respond again, again, and again to the Rev. Wright incident when he already addressed it? The man took a political risk and delivered his Philadelphia race relations speech, which some are saying was the greatest and the most honest apppraisal put forth on race in decades. After Senator Obama made the ‘bitter” gaff in San Francisco the other day, he came out the very next day and admitted that he had “mangled” what he had been attempting to convey. Then he went on to clarify his message. After almost a full eight years of mistakes by “The Decider” (more like lies), do our two candidates have to be eligible for sainthood or be declared infallabale (ala the Pope) before there considered viable for the job?
I personally have been disappointed with all of the debates, not because of the candidates but because of the format and questions. We really need to return them to the more profeesional over-sight of The League of Women Voters. The audiance SHOULD NOT be allowed to clap, boo, or hiss during the debate. The entire atmosphere is now like a re-run of World Fed.Wrestling.
Lastly, I would like to make an observation which I hope is not considered out of line. I was previously crticized by you,Pamlela, for making some anti-Hillary statements which you advised that I should refrane from making. I believe you said that my negative Hillary comments did our party no good and could easily be used by the GOP nominee in the general election against us. So, please advise why you think that, “Get use to seeing him flounder on the debate stage because John McCain will eat him alive—Obama doesn’t have the stuff to stand up to him” represents? If this is not giving aid and comfort to the enemy, I don’t know what is!! Buzz

]]> By: Kendall Johnson http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/comment-page-1/#comment-9476 Kendall Johnson Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:02:11 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/#comment-9476 Robt. Young There is no popular vote without Florida and Michigan. Robt. Young

There is no popular vote without Florida and Michigan.

]]> By: Pamela Leavey http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/comment-page-1/#comment-9472 Pamela Leavey Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:34:27 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/#comment-9472 Darrell Who looked old and stupid? Obama or McCain? ;) Don't underestimate him. We all underestimated Bush who looked rather young and stupid and look where that got us. . Darrell

Who looked old and stupid? Obama or McCain? ;)

Don’t underestimate him. We all underestimated Bush who looked rather young and stupid and look where that got us. .

]]> By: Darrell Prows http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/comment-page-1/#comment-9471 Darrell Prows Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:30:00 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/#comment-9471 It doesn't follow that Obama couldn't do well in a debate against McCain. Did you see him on Stephanopolous this morning. He had his lines and they were okay, but his delivery sucked. He mostly looked old and stupid, over his head, and that ain't winning nothing. It doesn’t follow that Obama couldn’t do well in a debate against McCain. Did you see him on Stephanopolous this morning. He had his lines and they were okay, but his delivery sucked. He mostly looked old and stupid, over his head, and that ain’t winning nothing.

]]> By: Robt. Young http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/comment-page-1/#comment-9470 Robt. Young Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:20:19 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/#comment-9470 Superdelegate's willingness to circumvent popular vote in the name of what "they know what is best for USA and/or their omniscience to select a winning candidate" is elitist. Status derived from positions of authority, nepotism or tenure shouldn't allow for an elitist attitude. Hopefully, these persons who hold prominence in our party will adhere to their substituencys' will, and willbe held answerable for their "enlightened" decisions. Superdelegate’s willingness to circumvent popular vote in the name of what “they know what is best for USA and/or their omniscience to select a winning candidate” is elitist. Status derived from positions of authority, nepotism or tenure shouldn’t allow for an elitist attitude. Hopefully, these persons who hold prominence in our party will adhere to their substituencys’ will, and willbe held answerable for their “enlightened” decisions.

]]> By: Pamela Leavey http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/comment-page-1/#comment-9469 Pamela Leavey Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:18:10 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/#comment-9469 Andy Maybe some people aren't so hip to the Obama is the perfect candidate hype. Andy

Maybe some people aren’t so hip to the Obama is the perfect candidate hype.

]]> By: Andy Witmyer http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/comment-page-1/#comment-9466 Andy Witmyer Mon, 21 Apr 2008 02:57:27 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/18/is-the-finger-the-nail-in-obamas-coffin/#comment-9466 "Did it happen? Did he flip off Hillary Clinton?" Uh... no? He was scratching his face...? Are you guys serious...??? It's sad that it's come to this - are we really so desperate for negative news? “Did it happen? Did he flip off Hillary Clinton?”

Uh… no? He was scratching his face…? Are you guys serious…??? It’s sad that it’s come to this – are we really so desperate for negative news?

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