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		<title>By: Clinton to Obama: Let&#8217;s debate like Lincoln &#171; Donna Darko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clinton to Obama: Let&#8217;s debate like Lincoln &#171; Donna Darko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Murder Anglachel: Metaphor? No, Murder. Alegre: Leaders Don&#8217;t Hide From Debates Pam Leavey: Krugman Speaks Volumes of Truths MyDD: A Sobering Question: Is Obama Electable? Violet Socks: Why is Obama still the front-runner? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Murder Anglachel: Metaphor? No, Murder. Alegre: Leaders Don&#8217;t Hide From Debates Pam Leavey: Krugman Speaks Volumes of Truths MyDD: A Sobering Question: Is Obama Electable? Violet Socks: Why is Obama still the front-runner? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell Prows</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrell Prows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to get excited enough about either candidate to get all emotional. While I do think that either would be better in office than the quality of their campaigns indicate, it&#039;s still clear to me that we&#039;re seeing a fight to see who can occupy the left side of the center right portion of the political spectrum. And the neo cons have moved the dialogue in this country so far to the right that both Clinton and Obama are coming down only slightly to the left of Richard Nixon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to get excited enough about either candidate to get all emotional. While I do think that either would be better in office than the quality of their campaigns indicate, it&#8217;s still clear to me that we&#8217;re seeing a fight to see who can occupy the left side of the center right portion of the political spectrum. And the neo cons have moved the dialogue in this country so far to the right that both Clinton and Obama are coming down only slightly to the left of Richard Nixon.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/25/krugman-speaks-volumes-of-truths/comment-page-1/#comment-9748</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>coldH2Owi 

Good gracious - I have no idea what the heck your issues are but do not make them with me here. You have NO idea who I am, what my beliefs are and you make a whole lot of ugly assumptions here. I&#039;m tired of all the bickering. I&#039;m tired of the ugly punditry and everyone whining that they want their way or else. I&#039;m &lt;a href=&quot;http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/26/late-night-fair-is-fair/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sick of it all&lt;/a&gt;. 5 years in the blogopshere trying to make a difference in my own little way and I have to put with people like you passing judgment on me. I don&#039;t think so. </description>
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<p>Good gracious &#8211; I have no idea what the heck your issues are but do not make them with me here. You have NO idea who I am, what my beliefs are and you make a whole lot of ugly assumptions here. I&#8217;m tired of all the bickering. I&#8217;m tired of the ugly punditry and everyone whining that they want their way or else. I&#8217;m <a href="http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/26/late-night-fair-is-fair/" rel="nofollow">sick of it all</a>. 5 years in the blogopshere trying to make a difference in my own little way and I have to put with people like you passing judgment on me. I don&#8217;t think so. </p>
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		<title>By: coldH2Owi</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/25/krugman-speaks-volumes-of-truths/comment-page-1/#comment-9742</link>
		<dc:creator>coldH2Owi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real sweet, Pamela.  Since you were working for John Kerry, I&#039;m sort of glad he didn&#039;t win, since if you would have gotten a paying job with him, you may have turned out like that Regent U. woman lawyer who wouldn&#039;t hire another woman because she &quot;heard&quot; the woman was gay.  I hope you do well in your insulated little world of Sen. Clinton lovers, you know, those who actually believe that crap about dynasties &amp; royal families no matter how much you all deny it.  Hope you&#039;re feeling better now that you&#039;ve gotten rid of two strong Democrats.  Good job, kiddo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real sweet, Pamela.  Since you were working for John Kerry, I&#8217;m sort of glad he didn&#8217;t win, since if you would have gotten a paying job with him, you may have turned out like that Regent U. woman lawyer who wouldn&#8217;t hire another woman because she &#8220;heard&#8221; the woman was gay.  I hope you do well in your insulated little world of Sen. Clinton lovers, you know, those who actually believe that crap about dynasties &amp; royal families no matter how much you all deny it.  Hope you&#8217;re feeling better now that you&#8217;ve gotten rid of two strong Democrats.  Good job, kiddo.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/25/krugman-speaks-volumes-of-truths/comment-page-1/#comment-9738</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buzz

Hillary Clinton is a highly qualified candidate who has long aspired to be president. When the Clinton speak in terms of her waiting her &quot;turn&quot; it in reference to her being wife and mother first and getting to that place where she could run for president (and go back to her own career) because her husband had served his terms and her daughter is a grown women. Women make sacrifices everyday in this country. They put their husbands careers and families first. Hillary Clinton did just that and now is the time when she can run for president without it interfering with her family or husband&#039;s career. That what her &quot;turn&quot; is about. And in my opinion -- she, has every right in the world to step up and run for president. 

It&#039;s not about this being some dynasty as you say -- it&#039;s about a qualified woman running for president. The idea that you see this as an afront is in my opinion a bit sexist and very unfair. So in that resepct as women who has also put my family first, I find this repeated line of talking points from you to be offensive. 

As the owner if this blog, I reserve the right to say what works here in terms of discussion. All blog owners do.I rarely edit or moderate comments -- in fact I don&#039;t even have the comments set to registered members only as most blogs do. 

I&#039;ve tried to make the Dem Daily, for the time being a place where Clinton supporters can comfortably discuss her candidacy with out being bashed which is the norm in most liberal blogs these days. So given that I ask that commenters respect that we&#039;re supporting Hillary here and that those who don&#039;t support her don&#039;t overtly bash her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buzz</p>
<p>Hillary Clinton is a highly qualified candidate who has long aspired to be president. When the Clinton speak in terms of her waiting her &#8220;turn&#8221; it in reference to her being wife and mother first and getting to that place where she could run for president (and go back to her own career) because her husband had served his terms and her daughter is a grown women. Women make sacrifices everyday in this country. They put their husbands careers and families first. Hillary Clinton did just that and now is the time when she can run for president without it interfering with her family or husband&#8217;s career. That what her &#8220;turn&#8221; is about. And in my opinion &#8212; she, has every right in the world to step up and run for president. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about this being some dynasty as you say &#8212; it&#8217;s about a qualified woman running for president. The idea that you see this as an afront is in my opinion a bit sexist and very unfair. So in that resepct as women who has also put my family first, I find this repeated line of talking points from you to be offensive. </p>
<p>As the owner if this blog, I reserve the right to say what works here in terms of discussion. All blog owners do.I rarely edit or moderate comments &#8212; in fact I don&#8217;t even have the comments set to registered members only as most blogs do. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried to make the Dem Daily, for the time being a place where Clinton supporters can comfortably discuss her candidacy with out being bashed which is the norm in most liberal blogs these days. So given that I ask that commenters respect that we&#8217;re supporting Hillary here and that those who don&#8217;t support her don&#8217;t overtly bash her.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/25/krugman-speaks-volumes-of-truths/comment-page-1/#comment-9737</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>coldH2Owi

&lt;blockquote&gt;You have done better than most, yet you complain all the time about being broke. So, the question is, how well have you really done? If you’re broke, then the right will say you just didn’t try hard enough, didn’t pull hard enough on your bootstraps.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I complain mostly about the economy -- which directly effects my business. I have said here many times thatmy business did very well under the Clinton administration and experienced growth during that time. Under the Bush administration my sales have continued to drop. Not just my sales, but my vendors and clients are also suffering. 

There&#039;s a difference, between discussing the economy and my perspective as a small business owner and your dissing of the Clinton&#039;s because of how much income they made. I don&#039;t bemoan the fact that other people have or make more than I -- save for complaining about BIG OIL companies and large corporations who have hurt small businesses like my own. While Bill Clinton may have made a huge chunk of money in recent years, you may not be aware that his foundation has done a lot to help small businesses. So too did his adminstration. 

I do also understand that in some areas, welfare to work has not been as successful. But is it the program itself, which has helped countless women get job training and jobs or is it the area itself - areas more rural where there are less jobs? 

As for the Native Americans that aren&#039;t faring well -- that in itself is an ongoing battle that reaches far beyond the welfare system. This country has committed grave sins against our first people. It&#039;s a whole different discussion. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;I want the Democratic Party to be what is was, instead of putting out candidates that remind me of Everett Dirkson. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nothing ever stays the same. The Democratic Party will never be &quot;what it was.&quot; Much has changed since those days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>coldH2Owi</p>
<blockquote><p>You have done better than most, yet you complain all the time about being broke. So, the question is, how well have you really done? If you’re broke, then the right will say you just didn’t try hard enough, didn’t pull hard enough on your bootstraps.</p></blockquote>
<p>I complain mostly about the economy &#8212; which directly effects my business. I have said here many times thatmy business did very well under the Clinton administration and experienced growth during that time. Under the Bush administration my sales have continued to drop. Not just my sales, but my vendors and clients are also suffering. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a difference, between discussing the economy and my perspective as a small business owner and your dissing of the Clinton&#8217;s because of how much income they made. I don&#8217;t bemoan the fact that other people have or make more than I &#8212; save for complaining about BIG OIL companies and large corporations who have hurt small businesses like my own. While Bill Clinton may have made a huge chunk of money in recent years, you may not be aware that his foundation has done a lot to help small businesses. So too did his adminstration. </p>
<p>I do also understand that in some areas, welfare to work has not been as successful. But is it the program itself, which has helped countless women get job training and jobs or is it the area itself &#8211; areas more rural where there are less jobs? </p>
<p>As for the Native Americans that aren&#8217;t faring well &#8212; that in itself is an ongoing battle that reaches far beyond the welfare system. This country has committed grave sins against our first people. It&#8217;s a whole different discussion. </p>
<blockquote><p>I want the Democratic Party to be what is was, instead of putting out candidates that remind me of Everett Dirkson. </p></blockquote>
<p>Nothing ever stays the same. The Democratic Party will never be &#8220;what it was.&#8221; Much has changed since those days.</p>
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		<title>By: William A. Stoddart</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/25/krugman-speaks-volumes-of-truths/comment-page-1/#comment-9730</link>
		<dc:creator>William A. Stoddart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela, I would respectfully submit that that I did not consider what I posted as constituting, &quot;crap&quot;.  I would also politely remind you that I am not the only blogger to The Democratic Daily who has had some positives about Obama and some negatives about Hillary.  Therefore, you may also wish to inform these folks to discontinue their postings.
Perhaps, &quot;enough is enough&quot;.  You continue to insult and demean any of your bloggers who may hold a diferent opinion. I always thought the purpose of a democracy, as in DEMOCRATIC&quot; Daily, was to illicit a variety of opinions.  I also mistakenly thought that our US Constitution guaranteed us a degree of free speech.
How very disappointing that I misjudged the philosophy of this particular blog.  So therefore, I will take you up on your suggestion that, &quot; I go tell it to bloggers who agree.&quot;  However, in closing I want to stress that what I am looking for is not bloggers that must always agree with me.  Instead, I am looking for the type of blog that welcomes a variety of viewpoints.  Obiously Democratic Daily does not welcome a variety of viewpoints, so as you suggest, &quot;I will not do it here.&quot;  You can rest assured that you will never be hearing from be again.              Buzz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela, I would respectfully submit that that I did not consider what I posted as constituting, &#8220;crap&#8221;.  I would also politely remind you that I am not the only blogger to The Democratic Daily who has had some positives about Obama and some negatives about Hillary.  Therefore, you may also wish to inform these folks to discontinue their postings.<br />
Perhaps, &#8220;enough is enough&#8221;.  You continue to insult and demean any of your bloggers who may hold a diferent opinion. I always thought the purpose of a democracy, as in DEMOCRATIC&#8221; Daily, was to illicit a variety of opinions.  I also mistakenly thought that our US Constitution guaranteed us a degree of free speech.<br />
How very disappointing that I misjudged the philosophy of this particular blog.  So therefore, I will take you up on your suggestion that, &#8221; I go tell it to bloggers who agree.&#8221;  However, in closing I want to stress that what I am looking for is not bloggers that must always agree with me.  Instead, I am looking for the type of blog that welcomes a variety of viewpoints.  Obiously Democratic Daily does not welcome a variety of viewpoints, so as you suggest, &#8220;I will not do it here.&#8221;  You can rest assured that you will never be hearing from be again.              Buzz</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/25/krugman-speaks-volumes-of-truths/comment-page-1/#comment-9729</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>coldH2Owi

What I told Buzz goes for you too. I&#039;ll be more than happy to shut down the comments here rather respond to the whining any further. I took your comments out of moderation for the last time. Everything else gets deleted. I have better things to do with my time. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>coldH2Owi</p>
<p>What I told Buzz goes for you too. I&#8217;ll be more than happy to shut down the comments here rather respond to the whining any further. I took your comments out of moderation for the last time. Everything else gets deleted. I have better things to do with my time. </p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/25/krugman-speaks-volumes-of-truths/comment-page-1/#comment-9728</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buzz

Knock off the royal family crap here. I mean really. Enough is enough. Barack Obama and his campaign have had plenty to say about Hillary Clinton. You ignore all that and continue to post this same crap here. Again enough is enough. If you don&#039;t like Hillary Clinton - go tell it to bloggers who agree, but don&#039;t do it here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buzz</p>
<p>Knock off the royal family crap here. I mean really. Enough is enough. Barack Obama and his campaign have had plenty to say about Hillary Clinton. You ignore all that and continue to post this same crap here. Again enough is enough. If you don&#8217;t like Hillary Clinton &#8211; go tell it to bloggers who agree, but don&#8217;t do it here.</p>
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		<title>By: William A. Stoddart</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/04/25/krugman-speaks-volumes-of-truths/comment-page-1/#comment-9724</link>
		<dc:creator>William A. Stoddart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just want to make a few observations on this mess:
One blogger makes the comment that inspiration in the long run is &quot;really worth shit&quot;.   Well, perhaps our Founding Fathers should not have acted out the INSPIRATION that an America free from the control of the English crown was possible.  Maybe Winston Curchill should have been more of a realalist.  After all how could just words inspire his countymen to ward off the Nazi&#039;s, who had a military clearly superior to theirs.  Perhaps Martin Luther King should not have had the inspiration to think that non-violence was the way to gain equality for blacks.  In short INSPIRATION IS EVERYTHING!  Without it most all goals become unattainable.  How can we be downing Obama for inspiring a sense of inspiration within our souls, when we have had a totally incompetent president (King) for eight years who has inspired nothing but fear?
Secondly, a contributing factor in this political impass is the extent of the ego and naracism of Hillary (and Bill).  In my humble opinion,  Senator Clinton exudes the feeling that her assension to the presidency is her &quot;birthright&quot;.  It&#039;s well documented that the Clintons during Bills two terms constantly referred to &quot;The Plan&quot;.  &quot;The Plan&quot; was simply code language used to discuss Hillary&#039;s &quot;Turn&quot;.   Since when has it become fashionable for anyone to have the AUDACITY to think that they have a turn?   Prince Charles will have &quot;his turn&quot; as monarch when his mother, Queen Elizabeth&#039;s, reign ends.  In a democracy I was always under the impression, I guess mistakenly, that we elected a president instead of crowning one.  I constantly hear political pundits say that Obama should not be running because it&#039;s &quot;Not his turn&quot;   The ego of Hillary has no bounds.  I wonder if both she and Bill will ever come to the realization that the candidacy of Obama is not a &quot;fairytail&quot;.   Rightly or wrongly, the rhetoric of Barack, like the rhetoric of JFK, has moved our dissillusioned young people to become inspired and to join in the political process.  How can this be labeled wrong.  If Hillary ends up being selected by Super Delegates in&quot;smoke filled rooms, it will effectively  destroy the political optimism of an entire generation. If Hillary becomes President  and serves for a full two terms, we will have had our two royal families (Bush/Clinton) being a part of the executive branch for a full 36 years. (including the 8 year vice-presidency of PaPa Bush)  Please explain to me how having two political families controling the executive branch for almost four decades can represent a catalyist for CHANGE?   Contrary to both Hillary&#039;s campaign spokes-people and the best of the GOP media (FOX), Barack is not a whimp.   Wasn&#039;t eight years of &quot;The Decider&quot; playing the fear card enough?    Must Hillary backers use it in their continued character assassination of Barack.  Oh, but I forgot, the mission statement of the Clinton&#039;s has always been, &quot;the end justifies the means&quot;.   Buzz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just want to make a few observations on this mess:<br />
One blogger makes the comment that inspiration in the long run is &#8220;really worth shit&#8221;.   Well, perhaps our Founding Fathers should not have acted out the INSPIRATION that an America free from the control of the English crown was possible.  Maybe Winston Curchill should have been more of a realalist.  After all how could just words inspire his countymen to ward off the Nazi&#8217;s, who had a military clearly superior to theirs.  Perhaps Martin Luther King should not have had the inspiration to think that non-violence was the way to gain equality for blacks.  In short INSPIRATION IS EVERYTHING!  Without it most all goals become unattainable.  How can we be downing Obama for inspiring a sense of inspiration within our souls, when we have had a totally incompetent president (King) for eight years who has inspired nothing but fear?<br />
Secondly, a contributing factor in this political impass is the extent of the ego and naracism of Hillary (and Bill).  In my humble opinion,  Senator Clinton exudes the feeling that her assension to the presidency is her &#8220;birthright&#8221;.  It&#8217;s well documented that the Clintons during Bills two terms constantly referred to &#8220;The Plan&#8221;.  &#8220;The Plan&#8221; was simply code language used to discuss Hillary&#8217;s &#8220;Turn&#8221;.   Since when has it become fashionable for anyone to have the AUDACITY to think that they have a turn?   Prince Charles will have &#8220;his turn&#8221; as monarch when his mother, Queen Elizabeth&#8217;s, reign ends.  In a democracy I was always under the impression, I guess mistakenly, that we elected a president instead of crowning one.  I constantly hear political pundits say that Obama should not be running because it&#8217;s &#8220;Not his turn&#8221;   The ego of Hillary has no bounds.  I wonder if both she and Bill will ever come to the realization that the candidacy of Obama is not a &#8220;fairytail&#8221;.   Rightly or wrongly, the rhetoric of Barack, like the rhetoric of JFK, has moved our dissillusioned young people to become inspired and to join in the political process.  How can this be labeled wrong.  If Hillary ends up being selected by Super Delegates in&#8221;smoke filled rooms, it will effectively  destroy the political optimism of an entire generation. If Hillary becomes President  and serves for a full two terms, we will have had our two royal families (Bush/Clinton) being a part of the executive branch for a full 36 years. (including the 8 year vice-presidency of PaPa Bush)  Please explain to me how having two political families controling the executive branch for almost four decades can represent a catalyist for CHANGE?   Contrary to both Hillary&#8217;s campaign spokes-people and the best of the GOP media (FOX), Barack is not a whimp.   Wasn&#8217;t eight years of &#8220;The Decider&#8221; playing the fear card enough?    Must Hillary backers use it in their continued character assassination of Barack.  Oh, but I forgot, the mission statement of the Clinton&#8217;s has always been, &#8220;the end justifies the means&#8221;.   Buzz</p>
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