Comments on: If You Count FL & MI, Hillary Leads in the Popular Vote http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/15/if-you-count-fl-mi-hillary-leads-in-the-popular-vote/ Political News, Progressive Commentary, Liberal Opinions and Common Sense Conversation... Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:14:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: KC http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/15/if-you-count-fl-mi-hillary-leads-in-the-popular-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-10958 KC Sat, 17 May 2008 01:13:14 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/15/if-you-count-fl-mi-hillary-leads-in-the-popular-vote/#comment-10958 Wow, clutching at straws folks, and BTW it's not like ABC aren't pro Hillary anyway... So, I'm in FL, and I'm white, and male and didn't vote in the FL primary because I was told by the DNC it wouldn't count. I also don't own a home, so didn't feel it necessary to vote that same day for the amendment re: home insurance. So instead of counting the votes of those who voted anyway that day, which is what you're doing with those "numbers" above, how about having a revote, with campaigning from both parties so that voters can vote in the knowledge it will count this time? Oh, of course you wouldn't approve that idea because then Hillary wouldn't "win" the popular vote, or the nomination because I'm sure more than 43,000 people would vote for Obama in Michigan, if he was actually ON the ballot this time! And you wonder why Wow, clutching at straws folks, and BTW it’s not like ABC aren’t pro Hillary anyway…

So, I’m in FL, and I’m white, and male and didn’t vote in the FL primary because I was told by the DNC it wouldn’t count. I also don’t own a home, so didn’t feel it necessary to vote that same day for the amendment re: home insurance.

So instead of counting the votes of those who voted anyway that day, which is what you’re doing with those “numbers” above, how about having a revote, with campaigning from both parties so that voters can vote in the knowledge it will count this time?

Oh, of course you wouldn’t approve that idea because then Hillary wouldn’t “win” the popular vote, or the nomination because I’m sure more than 43,000 people would vote for Obama in Michigan, if he was actually ON the ballot this time!

And you wonder why

]]> By: Andy Witmyer http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/15/if-you-count-fl-mi-hillary-leads-in-the-popular-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-10939 Andy Witmyer Fri, 16 May 2008 22:43:29 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/15/if-you-count-fl-mi-hillary-leads-in-the-popular-vote/#comment-10939 Also, the rules of nomination system rely on delegates, not popular votes. I still believe that in the end, Obama would still lead in popular votes, even if MI and FL were counted. He'd certainly still be leading in popular votes. Also, the rules of nomination system rely on delegates, not popular votes. I still believe that in the end, Obama would still lead in popular votes, even if MI and FL were counted. He’d certainly still be leading in popular votes.

]]> By: axt113 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/15/if-you-count-fl-mi-hillary-leads-in-the-popular-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-10873 axt113 Fri, 16 May 2008 09:59:16 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/15/if-you-count-fl-mi-hillary-leads-in-the-popular-vote/#comment-10873 No they don't if you count FL and MI and ignore NV, IA and others then Hillary leads Here is the true pop vote counts Popular Vote Total 16,104,613 49.3% 15,511,003 47.5% Obama +593,610 +1.8% Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 16,438,697 49.3% 15,734,865 47.2% Obama +703,832 +2.1% Popular Vote (w/FL) 16,680,827 48.4% 16,381,989 47.6% Obama +298,838 +0.8% Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 17,014,911 48.5% 16,605,851 47.3% Obama +409,060 +1.2% Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)** 16,680,827 47.6% 16,710,298 47.7% Clinton +29,471 +0.08% Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 17,014,911 47.7% 16,934,160 47.5% Obama +80,751 +0.22% http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html Only if you ignore four states and count FL and MI is Hillary leading, but if you count all of them, Obama is still leading No they don’t if you count FL and MI and ignore NV, IA and others then Hillary leads

Here is the true pop vote counts

Popular Vote Total 16,104,613 49.3% 15,511,003 47.5% Obama +593,610 +1.8%

Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 16,438,697 49.3% 15,734,865 47.2% Obama +703,832 +2.1%

Popular Vote (w/FL) 16,680,827 48.4% 16,381,989 47.6% Obama +298,838 +0.8%

Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 17,014,911 48.5% 16,605,851 47.3% Obama +409,060 +1.2%

Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)** 16,680,827 47.6% 16,710,298 47.7% Clinton +29,471 +0.08%

Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 17,014,911 47.7% 16,934,160 47.5% Obama +80,751 +0.22%

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

Only if you ignore four states and count FL and MI is Hillary leading, but if you count all of them, Obama is still leading

]]> By: Bick http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/15/if-you-count-fl-mi-hillary-leads-in-the-popular-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-10870 Bick Fri, 16 May 2008 09:46:54 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/15/if-you-count-fl-mi-hillary-leads-in-the-popular-vote/#comment-10870 That's true. A vote is a vote.Remember 2000? That’s true. A vote is a vote.Remember 2000?

]]> By: Going After NARAL | Comments from Left Field http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/15/if-you-count-fl-mi-hillary-leads-in-the-popular-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-10867 Going After NARAL | Comments from Left Field Fri, 16 May 2008 08:38:01 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/15/if-you-count-fl-mi-hillary-leads-in-the-popular-vote/#comment-10867 [...] Feelings of betrayal have resulted in attacks against the organization from within and without, and I’ll explain why this bothers me so.  Now we find ourselves in a situation where women are actively attacking other women for expressing their opinion.  While NARAL has been called “unconscionable” for its endorsement, I feel that the resulting backlash is itself unconscionable. [...] [...] Feelings of betrayal have resulted in attacks against the organization from within and without, and I’ll explain why this bothers me so.  Now we find ourselves in a situation where women are actively attacking other women for expressing their opinion.  While NARAL has been called “unconscionable” for its endorsement, I feel that the resulting backlash is itself unconscionable. [...]

]]> By: GeekLove08 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/15/if-you-count-fl-mi-hillary-leads-in-the-popular-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-10865 GeekLove08 Fri, 16 May 2008 07:52:09 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/15/if-you-count-fl-mi-hillary-leads-in-the-popular-vote/#comment-10865 I helped create the <strong>“<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM" rel="nofollow">Mad is Hell</a>” video (re. media bias against HIllary Clinton)</strong> along with IndyRobin. <strong>I created a NEW VIDEO: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke64670GkZ8" rel="nofollow">“We’ve Come a Long Way, Baby!”</a> </strong> <strong>It’s about Obama’s silence on sexism against Hillary Clinton and his own sexist remarks.</strong> If you approve of the video, I’d appreciate your help in spreading the video by creating a post on the video and ask that you and your readers go to youtube to RATE, COMMENT & mark FAVORITE the video. Thanks. I helped create the “Mad is Hell” video (re. media bias against HIllary Clinton) along with IndyRobin.

I created a NEW VIDEO: “We’ve Come a Long Way, Baby!”

It’s about Obama’s silence on sexism against Hillary Clinton and his own sexist remarks.

If you approve of the video, I’d appreciate your help in spreading the video by creating a post on the video and ask that you and your readers go to youtube to RATE, COMMENT & mark FAVORITE the video.

Thanks.

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