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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/25/wwtsbq-20-a-neverending-series/comment-page-1/#comment-12103</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 07:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP

Thank you - I think you are a rational Obama supporter. And I agree, we are blessed with 2 outstanding candidates. That&#039;s what I hear from a lot of people off the blogs. 

I keep in the back of my mind most days the gracious words of a member of Kerry&#039;s staff when I let them know I was endorsing HRC. I was told that one way or another we&#039;d all eventually be on the same team. It was a tough choice for me not to follow his lead after working so close with his staff after &#039;04. It was really nice to know my decision was respected and understood. 

I also made a point here of urging other front page bloggers to endorse whoever they wanted to here on The Dem Daily. Eventually we just became a Hillary haven, which is fine, because other blogs have not been so supportive of her. I also remember only too well what it was like to be one of the few early Kerry supporters on the blogosphere (in Spring &#039;03) and likewise to remain a Kerry supporter after the election. The Dem Daily was started in fact, as a haven for Kerry supporters. 

This too shall pass... I hope. And we&#039;ll be swearing in a Dem in January!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP</p>
<p>Thank you &#8211; I think you are a rational Obama supporter. And I agree, we are blessed with 2 outstanding candidates. That&#8217;s what I hear from a lot of people off the blogs. </p>
<p>I keep in the back of my mind most days the gracious words of a member of Kerry&#8217;s staff when I let them know I was endorsing HRC. I was told that one way or another we&#8217;d all eventually be on the same team. It was a tough choice for me not to follow his lead after working so close with his staff after &#8217;04. It was really nice to know my decision was respected and understood. </p>
<p>I also made a point here of urging other front page bloggers to endorse whoever they wanted to here on The Dem Daily. Eventually we just became a Hillary haven, which is fine, because other blogs have not been so supportive of her. I also remember only too well what it was like to be one of the few early Kerry supporters on the blogosphere (in Spring &#8217;03) and likewise to remain a Kerry supporter after the election. The Dem Daily was started in fact, as a haven for Kerry supporters. </p>
<p>This too shall pass&#8230; I hope. And we&#8217;ll be swearing in a Dem in January!</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/25/wwtsbq-20-a-neverending-series/comment-page-1/#comment-12101</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 06:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wish i had been able to work on Kerry&#039;s campaign in 04.  i will never forget the moment i realized that we weren&#039;t going to take Ohio...i literally could not believe this country would vote for 4 more years of Bush.  i hope all Democrats remember that moment and are motivated as hell to make sure it doesn&#039;t happen again this year.  i was unable to work in 04, but this year my family and financial life is such that i think i can swing some time to work for our nominee.  better late than never i guess.

i dont&#039; want to fight with Clinton supporters here--that&#039;s not my purpose in commenting.  and i&#039;d like to think i&#039;m a rational Obama supporter...these next coupe weeks are going to be extremely trying for our party, but i have faith that be it Clinton or Obama, we are going to come out with a winning team.  we are blessed with 2 outstanding candidates, it could be a lot worse!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wish i had been able to work on Kerry&#8217;s campaign in 04.  i will never forget the moment i realized that we weren&#8217;t going to take Ohio&#8230;i literally could not believe this country would vote for 4 more years of Bush.  i hope all Democrats remember that moment and are motivated as hell to make sure it doesn&#8217;t happen again this year.  i was unable to work in 04, but this year my family and financial life is such that i think i can swing some time to work for our nominee.  better late than never i guess.</p>
<p>i dont&#8217; want to fight with Clinton supporters here&#8211;that&#8217;s not my purpose in commenting.  and i&#8217;d like to think i&#8217;m a rational Obama supporter&#8230;these next coupe weeks are going to be extremely trying for our party, but i have faith that be it Clinton or Obama, we are going to come out with a winning team.  we are blessed with 2 outstanding candidates, it could be a lot worse!</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/25/wwtsbq-20-a-neverending-series/comment-page-1/#comment-12098</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 06:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP

I think the uniting will happen. It&#039;s going to take some on both sides however. I also think the blogosphere is not a clear picture of the reality on the ground. Out here in the L.A. area there are a lot of Clinton supporters. Many I talk to don&#039;t read the blogs and they have no idea about the supporter wars going on. 

As I have said here, I saw what happened when disgruntled supporters of other candidates didn&#039;t put their all into supporting Kerry in &#039;04. For that reason I continue to try to be the voice of reason here, while still giving Clinton supporters a haven to support the candidate of their choice. 

None of us really know what the next few weeks will bring, but I agree with you there are issues on the table that ultimately trump all and it will be tantamount to fight like hell to put a Dem in the White House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP</p>
<p>I think the uniting will happen. It&#8217;s going to take some on both sides however. I also think the blogosphere is not a clear picture of the reality on the ground. Out here in the L.A. area there are a lot of Clinton supporters. Many I talk to don&#8217;t read the blogs and they have no idea about the supporter wars going on. </p>
<p>As I have said here, I saw what happened when disgruntled supporters of other candidates didn&#8217;t put their all into supporting Kerry in &#8217;04. For that reason I continue to try to be the voice of reason here, while still giving Clinton supporters a haven to support the candidate of their choice. </p>
<p>None of us really know what the next few weeks will bring, but I agree with you there are issues on the table that ultimately trump all and it will be tantamount to fight like hell to put a Dem in the White House.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/25/wwtsbq-20-a-neverending-series/comment-page-1/#comment-12096</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 06:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m not knocking this page Pamela--i quite like it.  i come back here because i think most of the posts are quite intelligent pieces.  and I&#039;m an Obama supporter, and i realize that most contributers on this blog are Clinton supporters.  that doesn&#039;t faze me, because i always felt this was a strongly Democratic group of individuals and that comes out in the values expressed by most of the posts.

as an Obama supporter, i have the luxury of supporting a candidate that it looks like is going to win the nomination, so i guess you have to take what i am going to write with a grain of salt.  but if the roles were reversed and Clinton was winning, you would not find me here moaning and groaning about this or that perceived inequality with the race.  i would be disappointed yes (i&#039;ve gotten used to disappointment these last 8 years), but i would not see a benefit in further tearing the party apart, when that is the last thing we need.  we have to unite if we are going to stop the republican machine this november.  i pray we can all unite and do this.

so...while i respect you for bringing in many diverse voices to post here, i hope you respect my right to fire right back at them and say that enough is enough, let&#039;s pass the peace pipe, remember we&#039;re Democrats, and beat the pants off McCain this fall.  (and hopefully take the lessons we&#039;ve learned from this primary season and fix our nomination system)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m not knocking this page Pamela&#8211;i quite like it.  i come back here because i think most of the posts are quite intelligent pieces.  and I&#8217;m an Obama supporter, and i realize that most contributers on this blog are Clinton supporters.  that doesn&#8217;t faze me, because i always felt this was a strongly Democratic group of individuals and that comes out in the values expressed by most of the posts.</p>
<p>as an Obama supporter, i have the luxury of supporting a candidate that it looks like is going to win the nomination, so i guess you have to take what i am going to write with a grain of salt.  but if the roles were reversed and Clinton was winning, you would not find me here moaning and groaning about this or that perceived inequality with the race.  i would be disappointed yes (i&#8217;ve gotten used to disappointment these last 8 years), but i would not see a benefit in further tearing the party apart, when that is the last thing we need.  we have to unite if we are going to stop the republican machine this november.  i pray we can all unite and do this.</p>
<p>so&#8230;while i respect you for bringing in many diverse voices to post here, i hope you respect my right to fire right back at them and say that enough is enough, let&#8217;s pass the peace pipe, remember we&#8217;re Democrats, and beat the pants off McCain this fall.  (and hopefully take the lessons we&#8217;ve learned from this primary season and fix our nomination system)</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/25/wwtsbq-20-a-neverending-series/comment-page-1/#comment-12070</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 02:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cold

Personally I don&#039;t blog so I can spend time bickering with commenters who disagree with me. That&#039;s not my thing. Life&#039;s too short to be bickering over things. 

Frenchdoc brought her talents here because I messaged her on Facebook, after seeing a link to one of her pieces that I enjoyed. 

Again you are all over the place assuming all sorts of things and misconstruing most or all of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cold</p>
<p>Personally I don&#8217;t blog so I can spend time bickering with commenters who disagree with me. That&#8217;s not my thing. Life&#8217;s too short to be bickering over things. </p>
<p>Frenchdoc brought her talents here because I messaged her on Facebook, after seeing a link to one of her pieces that I enjoyed. </p>
<p>Again you are all over the place assuming all sorts of things and misconstruing most or all of it.</p>
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		<title>By: coldH2Owi</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/25/wwtsbq-20-a-neverending-series/comment-page-1/#comment-12065</link>
		<dc:creator>coldH2Owi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 00:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because that is not the point.  The last thing you ought to wish for is an isolated, preaching to the choir mentality on The Democratic Daily.  Why is it you think I want the same sort of life as we see on TalkLeft, which used to be on my list of favorites, or Taylor Marsh, an unfortunate discovery via this blog.  Or maybe Lambert Strether, that mighty guy who thinks sexism trumps everything.  BTW, Chicago Dyke has a great post on getting over it.  Frenchdoc, however, feels insulted &amp; appears to be taking her talents elsewhere.  I guess if we all wind up in our own monasteries chanting some hymn (please pardon the way that word is pronounced) nobody else understands, that will make us all free.  I&#039;m am delighted that you find me 10% helpful, or at least non-contrary.   It&#039;s a beginning, maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because that is not the point.  The last thing you ought to wish for is an isolated, preaching to the choir mentality on The Democratic Daily.  Why is it you think I want the same sort of life as we see on TalkLeft, which used to be on my list of favorites, or Taylor Marsh, an unfortunate discovery via this blog.  Or maybe Lambert Strether, that mighty guy who thinks sexism trumps everything.  BTW, Chicago Dyke has a great post on getting over it.  Frenchdoc, however, feels insulted &amp; appears to be taking her talents elsewhere.  I guess if we all wind up in our own monasteries chanting some hymn (please pardon the way that word is pronounced) nobody else understands, that will make us all free.  I&#8217;m am delighted that you find me 10% helpful, or at least non-contrary.   It&#8217;s a beginning, maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/25/wwtsbq-20-a-neverending-series/comment-page-1/#comment-12053</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 23:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cold

FYI -- I am working today. Regardless of the fact it is a holiday, I have orders that have to ship out tomorrow. 

Given that, I do not sit here 24/7 moderating comments on this blog. I have a business to run and a life. 

If you weren&#039;t so damn contrarian here 90% of the time, I never would have out your comments on moderation.  If you dislike our bloggers and disagree so often, why not find another blog to comment on where you find like minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cold</p>
<p>FYI &#8212; I am working today. Regardless of the fact it is a holiday, I have orders that have to ship out tomorrow. </p>
<p>Given that, I do not sit here 24/7 moderating comments on this blog. I have a business to run and a life. </p>
<p>If you weren&#8217;t so damn contrarian here 90% of the time, I never would have out your comments on moderation.  If you dislike our bloggers and disagree so often, why not find another blog to comment on where you find like minds.</p>
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		<title>By: coldH2Owi</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/25/wwtsbq-20-a-neverending-series/comment-page-1/#comment-12050</link>
		<dc:creator>coldH2Owi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 23:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Pamela, you will censor comments by not allowing them to be published.  I have taken my share of insults on this blog, but you protect your writers by censoring some of my comments.  It is your sandbox, that&#039;s true, but don&#039;t go all freedom of the press on JP &amp; me.  He&#039;s absolutely correct about Frenchdoc&#039;s over-the-top diatribe that adds nothing to the political discussion on this blog.  We all want harmony, at least I think we all do, but harmony by censorship is very J. Tito.  Now, you know I&#039;m not talking about useless racist, sexist, etc., stuff.  But if you &amp; Mr. Gilbert can laugh at me in public comments, it only seems democratic that I be allowed to respond.  At some point, we actually will move beyond the Sen. Clinton had the nomination stolen from her or Sen. Obama had the nomination stolen from him.  Then what?  Will Mr. Gilbert move to Iowa &amp; work really hard to have them abandon the caucus method of electing delegates?  Will Frenchdoc work really hard to get a spot on the Rules Committee of the DNC so she can have a say in what rules are promulgated?   Actually, I hope so, but given what I&#039;ve read of them here &amp; at other blogs, I&#039;m not optimistic.  I believe they will work hard to start another political party.  Well, good.  Maybe, if Sen. Clinton also decides to leave the party if she doesn&#039;t prevail, she can be the leader of this new party.  I, for one, am glad all of the Democratic greats of the past - from FDR to McGovern to Dave Obey to Russ Feingold - Barbara Boxer - all chose to stay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Pamela, you will censor comments by not allowing them to be published.  I have taken my share of insults on this blog, but you protect your writers by censoring some of my comments.  It is your sandbox, that&#8217;s true, but don&#8217;t go all freedom of the press on JP &amp; me.  He&#8217;s absolutely correct about Frenchdoc&#8217;s over-the-top diatribe that adds nothing to the political discussion on this blog.  We all want harmony, at least I think we all do, but harmony by censorship is very J. Tito.  Now, you know I&#8217;m not talking about useless racist, sexist, etc., stuff.  But if you &amp; Mr. Gilbert can laugh at me in public comments, it only seems democratic that I be allowed to respond.  At some point, we actually will move beyond the Sen. Clinton had the nomination stolen from her or Sen. Obama had the nomination stolen from him.  Then what?  Will Mr. Gilbert move to Iowa &amp; work really hard to have them abandon the caucus method of electing delegates?  Will Frenchdoc work really hard to get a spot on the Rules Committee of the DNC so she can have a say in what rules are promulgated?   Actually, I hope so, but given what I&#8217;ve read of them here &amp; at other blogs, I&#8217;m not optimistic.  I believe they will work hard to start another political party.  Well, good.  Maybe, if Sen. Clinton also decides to leave the party if she doesn&#8217;t prevail, she can be the leader of this new party.  I, for one, am glad all of the Democratic greats of the past &#8211; from FDR to McGovern to Dave Obey to Russ Feingold &#8211; Barbara Boxer &#8211; all chose to stay.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Leavey</title>
		<link>http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/25/wwtsbq-20-a-neverending-series/comment-page-1/#comment-12006</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Leavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 19:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP

As I pointed out to Coldh2owi last night in another thread, the Disclaimer at the top of the page says it all: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;The opinions of the authors and contributors on The Democratic Daily are their own and not the opinion of the Editor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As much as I see the need to get our nominee elected in November and will continue to encourage that, I also very clearly see the perspective of fellow Clinton supporters like Frenchdoc, which is why I invited her to blog here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP</p>
<p>As I pointed out to Coldh2owi last night in another thread, the Disclaimer at the top of the page says it all: </p>
<blockquote><p>The opinions of the authors and contributors on The Democratic Daily are their own and not the opinion of the Editor.</p></blockquote>
<p>As much as I see the need to get our nominee elected in November and will continue to encourage that, I also very clearly see the perspective of fellow Clinton supporters like Frenchdoc, which is why I invited her to blog here.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 19:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela--i couldn&#039;t agree more.  but the rant the frenchdoc posted just adds fuel to the fire, it doesn&#039;t work to bring us together.  that&#039;s my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela&#8211;i couldn&#8217;t agree more.  but the rant the frenchdoc posted just adds fuel to the fire, it doesn&#8217;t work to bring us together.  that&#8217;s my point.</p>
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