Comments on: What Is Going On At Trinity Church? http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/ Political News, Progressive Commentary, Liberal Opinions and Common Sense Conversation... Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:53:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: The Democratic Daily http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/comment-page-1/#comment-12585 The Democratic Daily Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:49:27 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/#comment-12585 <strong>Obama Quits Trinity Church...</strong> Timing is everything… Isn’t it. How curious that just a short time before the DNC Rules Committee made their final decision, the Obama campaign announced that the Obama’s were leaving the Trinity Church. Now, it could be just a coinci... Obama Quits Trinity Church…

Timing is everything… Isn’t it. How curious that just a short time before the DNC Rules Committee made their final decision, the Obama campaign announced that the Obama’s were leaving the Trinity Church. Now, it could be just a coinci…

]]> By: coldH2Owi http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/comment-page-1/#comment-12444 coldH2Owi Fri, 30 May 2008 11:43:59 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/#comment-12444 I had two members of the National Academy on my dissertation committee, so I don’t get shaken too easily any more ;-). Aren't we special, or what? I wonder what happens to those Phd. candidates who don't have National Academy members on their dissertation committee? They must be completely unable to handle any sort of questions. I'm glad Mr. Dr. Gilbert that you have been tested under fire. Frenchdoc: Who preaches at your church is quite different than a lie that is told repeatedly. It would have been a molehill had Sen. Clinton not told it repeatedly. But, of course, Sen. Clinton was tired, or something, much like the tears in NH. &, if AIDS is not a civil rights issue, I'm not sure what is. I had two members of the National Academy on my dissertation committee, so I don’t get shaken too easily any more ;-) .

Aren’t we special, or what? I wonder what happens to those Phd. candidates who don’t have National Academy members on their dissertation committee? They must be completely unable to handle any sort of questions. I’m glad Mr. Dr. Gilbert that you have been tested under fire.

Frenchdoc: Who preaches at your church is quite different than a lie that is told repeatedly. It would have been a molehill had Sen. Clinton not told it repeatedly. But, of course, Sen. Clinton was tired, or something, much like the tears in NH. &, if AIDS is not a civil rights issue, I’m not sure what is.

]]> By: Frenchdoc http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/comment-page-1/#comment-12425 Frenchdoc Fri, 30 May 2008 05:48:12 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/#comment-12425 As usual, Melissa McEwan of Shakesville has a great <a href="http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2008/05/hillary-sexism-watch-104.html" rel="nofollow">post</a> on it. And it Hillary Sexism Watch item #104. As usual, Melissa McEwan of Shakesville has a great post on it. And it Hillary Sexism Watch item #104.

]]> By: Frenchdoc http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/comment-page-1/#comment-12420 Frenchdoc Fri, 30 May 2008 04:54:38 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/#comment-12420 Both of them have attacked Clinton and promoting conspiracy theories regarding AIDS does not count as promoting civil rights... and since you think the Auschwitz gaffe was a mountain / molehill thing... I assume the same applies to the Tuzla gaffe, right? As for Jeralyn, she's is a Hillary supporter to be sure but hardly suffers from ODS, especially considering the fact that she repeatedly said she'll vote for him in November. She polices her site very strictly, has clear guidelines so that you won't find there the level of venom you see at DK and other pro-Obama site. Unless simple disagreement now counts as ODS. Nice try but you're gonna have to do better than this. Both of them have attacked Clinton and promoting conspiracy theories regarding AIDS does not count as promoting civil rights… and since you think the Auschwitz gaffe was a mountain / molehill thing… I assume the same applies to the Tuzla gaffe, right?

As for Jeralyn, she’s is a Hillary supporter to be sure but hardly suffers from ODS, especially considering the fact that she repeatedly said she’ll vote for him in November. She polices her site very strictly, has clear guidelines so that you won’t find there the level of venom you see at DK and other pro-Obama site. Unless simple disagreement now counts as ODS.

Nice try but you’re gonna have to do better than this.

]]> By: Pamela Leavey http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/comment-page-1/#comment-12416 Pamela Leavey Fri, 30 May 2008 04:21:41 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/#comment-12416 Cold Excuse me -- "The priest that Sen. Clinton is attacking." Proof postive that you twist things. The priest is attacking Senator Clinton. Cold

Excuse me — “The priest that Sen. Clinton is attacking.”

Proof postive that you twist things. The priest is attacking Senator Clinton.

]]> By: Gilbert Martinez http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/comment-page-1/#comment-12415 Gilbert Martinez Fri, 30 May 2008 04:20:17 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/#comment-12415 FD, I find cold's visceral hatred and condescension aimed at me personally to be rather amusing. I had two members of the National Academy on my dissertation committee, so I don't get shaken too easily any more ;-). FD, I find cold’s visceral hatred and condescension aimed at me personally to be rather amusing. I had two members of the National Academy on my dissertation committee, so I don’t get shaken too easily any more ;-) .

]]> By: Pamela Leavey http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/comment-page-1/#comment-12412 Pamela Leavey Fri, 30 May 2008 04:06:31 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/#comment-12412 Cold Perhaps some demon rum might help your attitude a little. Who gives a shit about Obama's church? Well, as he made his faith a focus, as Frenchdoc pointed out, then the wingnuts particularly the christian fundamentalists will have a heyday with this crap from the pulpit of his church. Cold

Perhaps some demon rum might help your attitude a little. Who gives a shit about Obama’s church? Well, as he made his faith a focus, as Frenchdoc pointed out, then the wingnuts particularly the christian fundamentalists will have a heyday with this crap from the pulpit of his church.

]]> By: coldH2Owi http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/comment-page-1/#comment-12411 coldH2Owi Fri, 30 May 2008 04:01:38 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/#comment-12411 "let’s review this and this" - Again, a mountain out of a molehill. But then again. Jeralyn has serious ODS. Her blog was regular reading for me, before, well, you know. Again, I say, who gives a shit about that church? Only Sen. Clinton supporters do, because they sense a weakness, a weakness that involves work for civil & human rights, apparently. The priest that Sen. Clinton is attacking, is a well respected figure in progressive circles in Chicago. I can only figure this out by assuming most of Sen. Clinton supporters are supporters of the DLC, & of course, they gave us Pres. Clinton in the 1990s. But the DLC is not a progressive outfit, see Harold Ford, Jr. I will be frank, I just don't want another eight years of the Clinton Drama Party. I want Sen. Boxer to be the next President, or Speaker Pelosi, or Lieutenant Gov. Lawton of Wisconsin. “let’s review this and this” –

Again, a mountain out of a molehill. But then again. Jeralyn has serious ODS. Her blog was regular reading for me, before, well, you know.

Again, I say, who gives a shit about that church? Only Sen. Clinton supporters do, because they sense a weakness, a weakness that involves work for civil & human rights, apparently. The priest that Sen. Clinton is attacking, is a well respected figure in progressive circles in Chicago. I can only figure this out by assuming most of Sen. Clinton supporters are supporters of the DLC, & of course, they gave us Pres. Clinton in the 1990s. But the DLC is not a progressive outfit, see Harold Ford, Jr. I will be frank, I just don’t want another eight years of the Clinton Drama Party. I want Sen. Boxer to be the next President, or Speaker Pelosi, or Lieutenant Gov. Lawton of Wisconsin.

]]> By: Frenchdoc http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/comment-page-1/#comment-12399 Frenchdoc Fri, 30 May 2008 03:15:28 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/#comment-12399 TUCC is important because Obama himself made it important. He can't have it both ways: if it's significant to his life / faith, and since faith is part of his political shtick, then, it's fair game. That mess is his fault. Oh, and as to making !@#$ up, let's review <a href="http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/27/1719/01583" rel="nofollow">this </a>and <a href="http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/28/02342/3539" rel="nofollow">this</a>. Unless, of course, Obama rulz apply here too or should we expect a big dose of WORM? TUCC is important because Obama himself made it important. He can’t have it both ways: if it’s significant to his life / faith, and since faith is part of his political shtick, then, it’s fair game. That mess is his fault.

Oh, and as to making !@#$ up, let’s review this and this. Unless, of course, Obama rulz apply here too or should we expect a big dose of WORM?

]]> By: Diane Elayne Dees http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/comment-page-1/#comment-12398 Diane Elayne Dees Fri, 30 May 2008 03:10:51 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/#comment-12398 My understanding is that Obama's website has been cleansed of its reference to Pfleger as yet another mentor. My understanding is that Obama’s website has been cleansed of its reference to Pfleger as yet another mentor.

]]> By: coldH2Owi http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/comment-page-1/#comment-12396 coldH2Owi Fri, 30 May 2008 02:10:31 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/#comment-12396 No, Frenchdoc, Mr. Dr. Gilbert is still hung over, still filled with that demon rum. It's incredible to me that Mr. Dr. Gilbert can so blithely write about someone not telling the truth without one single piece of evidence. I would also caution the good Dr. to be careful about defaming a candidate when his own candidate, Sen. Clinton, did repeatedly lie about ducking sniper fire in Tuzla. That statement is not made up. As far as that church goes, who gives a shit? I am amazed that Sen. Obama supporters are continually yelled at to remember that it is Sen. Clinton who is the candidate, not her husband, not Mark Penn, not Ball Boy Whatever Who Married That Lovely Cheney Apologist, but we must understand that Trinity Church is the most important thing in the history of Sen. Obama. You can't have it both ways, Mr. Dr. Gilbert. No, Frenchdoc, Mr. Dr. Gilbert is still hung over, still filled with that demon rum. It’s incredible to me that Mr. Dr. Gilbert can so blithely write about someone not telling the truth without one single piece of evidence. I would also caution the good Dr. to be careful about defaming a candidate when his own candidate, Sen. Clinton, did repeatedly lie about ducking sniper fire in Tuzla. That statement is not made up. As far as that church goes, who gives a shit? I am amazed that Sen. Obama supporters are continually yelled at to remember that it is Sen. Clinton who is the candidate, not her husband, not Mark Penn, not Ball Boy Whatever Who Married That Lovely Cheney Apologist, but we must understand that Trinity Church is the most important thing in the history of Sen. Obama. You can’t have it both ways, Mr. Dr. Gilbert.

]]> By: Frenchdoc http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/comment-page-1/#comment-12391 Frenchdoc Fri, 30 May 2008 01:05:23 +0000 http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/05/29/what-is-going-on-at-trinity-church/#comment-12391 (I guess DOCTOR Martinez is done with days of celebrations, drunkenness and hangovers and decided to get back down in the mud with the rest of us t :) ) (I guess DOCTOR Martinez is done with days of celebrations, drunkenness and hangovers and decided to get back down in the mud with the rest of us t :) )

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