Comments on: Clinton Nets Over 600,000 Votes Today

By: Gilbert Martinez

Gilbert Martinez — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:08:47 +0000

Darrell,

Two things. The nomination system is different than the federal election so not necessarily bound by laws. Sad but true. I’m fine with that, and letting the supers decide. But you can’t have Obama and Pelosi early on demanding super delegates must not overturn the “will of the people” and then the superdelegates going ahead and doing that (e.g. Kerry, Kennedy, etc.). Hopefully we’ll figure out the nomination system for next time.

Second, I think there is an easier way to change the EV system than a constitutional convention. It’s being talked about already. Basically, states are free to chose their electors any way they want, which is bound by winner-take-all popular vote these days. Some states are trying to enter into a compact such that states that have enough EVs to decide the outcome all agree to give their electors to the popular vote winner. That would make the election a true popular vote decision and would be consistent with constitutional principles from what I hear. SOme states are already proceeding.

By: Janet

Janet — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:36:27 +0000

I voted for Barrack Obama before knowing his church, his ties with Ayers, Khalidi, Hatem El Hady and Hamas!Most importanly knowing his extreme high income, capital gains and payroll taxes!
Obma was never introduced to the American people enough!
I would have NEVER voted for Obama if I knew those before!
I want my vote back immediately!
Superdelegates need to consider this sitiatiion!
Obama is done since mid March!
Obama became unelectable!

By: David

David — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:31:58 +0000

If anybody out there still belives all of the Hillary supporters will vote for Obama in the fall, they are out of their mind!
After seeing all the racist , crazy friends of Obama and his racist hateful wife, most of the Hillary Clinton supporters will go for John McCain!
Hillary MUST take it to the convention!

By: Phill

Phill — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:28:56 +0000

I have always voted for the Democrats!
The Democratic party is forcing me out!
I will NOT vote for Obama in fall!
Obama is an nti-white RACIST!
If it is not Hillary my support is for John McCain!
GO MCCAIN!

By: Kris Fichter

Kris Fichter — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:05:52 +0000

I want to send this to every Super delegate. I am outraged. This is unconstitutional and un-American. I live in Wisconsin and for the first time in my life, I feel as though many other people’s votes and mine do not count. How they can take so-called delegates away from Hillary and give them to Barack Obama is beyond me. Then on top of it, they give him more delegates when his name was not even on the ballet. I would sue. How is this possible? They have no right to interpret what people wanted. He got votes and delegates that were not even meant for him. How fair is this? He voluntarily took his name off the ballet; this was no one’s fault but his own. He should not be rewarded for doing so. If more people voted for Hillary Clinton, then she should be our nominee. That to me seems to be the WILL OF THE PEOPLE! People always tend to make things more complicated than they need to be. Whoever gets the most votes is the will of the people. Why they need to add all these delegate numbers together, I do not know. Make it simple, save our trees, save money, just add the votes together. More fair, shows the will of the people, and is a whole lot simpler. If Hillary has more votes than Barack Obama does, and Mr. Obama becomes our nominee, whose votes are you throwing away? Who doesn’t matter? This is why people do not go vote, because in the end it does not matter anyway. I feel like this now for the first time in my life and it is an awful feeling. More people would be involved and vote if they felt their, votes really meant something and they counted. I really do believe this entire system needs to be overhauled to include everyone and make sure that every vote counts. Mr. Obama’s integrity has diminished in my eyes as well as many of my friends I have talked to seeing he is willing to take something from Michigan that he knows darn well does not belong to him all in the name of winning something that does by popular vote, and by the REAL will of the people, not belong to him either. This to me makes him care about himself and not us, the AMERICAN people, or this country. He has really showed how selfish he is. One more thing to the DNC: WE ARE NOT HALF PEOPLE. All those people that voted are being punished for something they did not decide to do. You are not punishing or penalizing the actual people who made the decision to move up the primaries, you are penalizing and punishing the American people who voted. What will this do to us in November: In the end, Bye-bye White House and a brighter future for all of us. The people that run all this stuff need to learn how to be fair to all Americans. I did not hear one other state complain about Michigan and Florida, only all the rhetoric from the big wigs and all the spiny news media that can’t seem to stop telling people what’s going to happen even though they really don’t know themselves. The news does not seem to be news anymore; it seems to be personal agendas and trying to influence outcomes. Every time I opened my internet, there stood a big advertisement. “Should Hillary Quit, Vote Now”? It was there for months, WHY? What is happening to this country? I liked many others have talked about doing, will write Hillary Clintons name in on our November Ballet. Many of us are already starting to send out e-mails to Hillary supporters, family, friends, and every e-mail address we have. I am a 42 year old student at CVTC and I will be talking to everyone there also. I am also a business owner that travels a lot of states and I will be talking to people every chance I get. We are not going to stop supporting Hillary and even though you chose not to listen to the people’s votes, we will still make her our nominee. If Barack Obama would have received more votes than Hillary, many of us were willing to accept that, but that is not the case. Delegate numbers are NOT people, therefore they mean nothing to many of us. Most of the Super delegates are suppose to represent ALL people, why do they even take sides? I hope Hillary fights this because she certainly is in the right.
Kris Fichter

By: Dmitriy

Dmitriy — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:46:43 +0000

Supernuts don’t matter until August convention. See you there.

By: Pamela Leavey

Pamela Leavey — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:57:44 +0000

Gilbert

BTD weighed on the popular vote too – http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/31/234414/273

By: Darrell Prows

Darrell Prows — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:33:53 +0000

http://abcnews.go.com/politics

Gilbert: Here’s a web site that has Sen. Clinton !7,410.000 over Sen. Obama 17.234,000 in the popular vote, and it hasn’t been updated since 5-23. In my mind one vote up is as good as a million in the popular vote. On the other hand it has Obama virtually clinching the nomination in delegates.

I’ve seen Presidents inaugerated with fewer popular votes and more votes in the Electoral College.

Short of a Constitutional Convention, I don’t know what to do about this.

Do you support a Constitutional Convention?

By: Pamela Leavey

Pamela Leavey — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:02:12 +0000

Cold

They are not saying the same things you do…

By: coldH2Owi

coldH2Owi — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:56:39 +0000

How come these fine folks don’t get the same invitation to leave as I do,
particularly since they say the same things? Just asking.